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Jessica retires

It's official, Jessica retired (here). So, how long will it take TK to block her without prejudice and delete her user/talk page? larron^{sicut fur in nocte} 12:19, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

but... but... where will Conservapedians go for detailed discussions of anime? MDB 12:27, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm sure Uncle Ed will provide... assuming you like that kind of anime of course. Heh heh - I love how cp:Azumanga Daioh makes no mention of the creepy pedo Teacher, or Kaorin, who has definite lesbian-ish feelings towards Sakaki. Could be a surprise in store for little conservatives who watch that show. Countdown to deletion after Troll King reads this in 3... 2... 1... --PsyGremlin_Whut? 12:48, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

She's tried to get two of her photos removed, saying that the photos' owner (I assume her) has withdrawn permission for their use. Like that'll ever work for any copyrighted photo on CP, but the original photo comment says that they have been released into the public domain. Bondurant 12:57, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

lesbian-ish?! And thanks, I didn't even know they had an article on Azumanga. And how dare they call Osaka dim-witted! She's probably considered pretty smart on whatever planet she came from! --GTac 13:08, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Yeah - I love Osaka to bits too. --PsyGremlin_Whut? 13:17, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

What an annoying S.O.B. larron^{sicut fur in nocte} 13:38, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

[e.c] I used the words vindictive small-dicked pratt, but you E.C.'d me. PsyGremlin_Whut? 13:42, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

I agree that TK is a dick and all that, but the upload comment by Jessica did say that she had released the photos to the public domain, and I don't think you can then take back ownership for something you've given away. Of course, the polite thing to do would have been to delete the pictures, but this is TK. Bondurant 14:52, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

lol. Polite? It would have required him to do the 'proper' or even 'Christian' thing, but Troll King is unfamiliar with either word. --PsyGremlin_Whut? 14:58, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

What do you suppose is the fate of the picture of her and her sister on her user page? That would be the one I'd be worried about leaving at CP. Aboriginal Noise ^{Oh, you want to hit people with garbage cans?} 15:23, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Assuming Jessica was foolish enough to upload a real pic. I'm sure Ed by now has it safely in his...collection. --Kels 15:30, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

• Shudder*. Let's hope Jess doesn't read that :P EddyP 15:47, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

I wonder what she will be working on, but oh well... [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 21:01, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

If I remember rightly she was due to take up a teaching post in Japan about now. So I presume she's occupied with preparation of her class material. Генгис^{Our ignorance is God; what we know is science.} 21:40, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Creepy Ed is Creepy

Creepy Ed wunts ur naem and numbah. Will you answer the call?^{— Unsigned, by: Neveruse513 / talk / contribs} 17:01, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Moar Creepy Ed lulz: Ed doesn't know which sentence TaKess is talking about, which is funny because there are only two and one of them is "Wikipedia is dominated by atheistic public school students who would be particularly biased against this truth.", which we already knew was true. ^{— Unsigned, by: Neveruse513 / talk / contribs} 17:05, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

AW FUCK I CANNA TAKE IT: Ed is fucking retarded. ^{— Unsigned, by: Neveruse513 / talk / contribs} 17:07, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

I think Ed is trying to pull a creepier version of a TK here. At last TK keeps it online with email and IMs most of the time. I don't think we have really seen phone calls like this since this site got started. --BoredCPer 17:15, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

I saw this video a day or two ago, and it really, really reminded me of Ed.

http://vimeo.com/1613970 Possibly NSFW... it's been edited to sound worse than it is. -Lardashe

I seriously hope TaKess is under 18 and reports Ed. --PsyGremlin_Whut? 17:20, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Oh, I wish... (un)fortunately, TaKess is one of us. ^{— Unsigned, by: Neveruse513 / talk / contribs} 17:25, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't get it; why would Ed suddenly turn the creepyness up to 11? Z3ro^talk 17:27, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Saynosaynosaynosaynosaynosaynosaynosaynosaynosaynosaynosayno. She needs to equip herself with MACE. EddyP 17:50, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

How does one report this to COPPA? The service is aimed at individuals under 13. --Shagie 17:58, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Hey, we could put CUR's legendary socking skills to use here. Get weird Ed Moon to groom the little bugger. Entrapment, baby, yeah. --JeevesMkII ^{The gentleman's gentleman at the other site} 21:53, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Did someone say rusty-spotted catamite? Генгис^evolving 22:25, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Hahahahahahahahaha nice one Genghis! Ace McWicked^{Disco Jesus} 22:30, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

TaKess: "I'm a student at the University of Arizona", he/she/it should report creepy ed to campus security ;) ħuman 02:00, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

If I read COPPA correctly (I am not a lawyer), it doesn't even need to have a person out there - just signing up for an account on a service oriented to children including those under 13, requiring an email address, and not blocking said account if the person is 13 or under is enough. Having sysops ask for personal contact information of anyone who isn't a verified an adult would also be an issue on such a site. --Shagie 06:05, 13 May 2009 (UTC) Ammendum - even requiring the real name of a person 13 or under is in violation of COPPA. --Shagie 06:05, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

07:11, 13 May 2009 TK (Talk | contribs) blocked TaKess (Talk | contribs) with an expiry time of 5 years (account creation disabled, e-mail blocked) ‎ (Troublemaker/Prevaricator: Trolling posts) - Silver Sloth 12:22, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Burnt the user page as well. Anyone have a screen shot of the creepy what-the-fuckness? Crundy 11:05, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Rising from the Dead is illogical WIGO

Andy might be actually right on this one. I mean aside from any philosophical conclusions that I am unaware of (would it really be the same person in the reanimated body? Is it an analytic truth that being dead means you can't be brought back? etc) there is no logical objection to people rising from the dead, any more than there is a logical objection to unicorns existing. Then again Andy doesn't seem to have a clue what "logic" is so maybe he fluked this one. Bil08 03:22, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Based on what we now know dying to be, it is illogical — like saying, "There's nothing illogical about getting more power out of a battery you just completely drained." ListenerX^TalkerX 03:32, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

It does sort of come down to "name one example". OK, "name two" Oops, "name three" (Allowing for Lazarus?) ;) ħuman 03:37, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

I believe the problem lies in what "death" is defined as — perhaps someone is still experimenting, just like virgin birth, by making more samples(corpses and virgins, respectively) every day. Well, from Andy's definition, being dead has no baring on what happens afterwards(prone to resurrection) since "raised from the dead" is used (if "resurrection" is used, then there is a possibility that death only applies to those who stays dead). [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 03:38, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

arguments for religion are so much more successful when they don't try to "prove" their points with "science" and "logic"-- this is something PJR and Andy need to learn. Just dismiss all the violations of the rules (Where did the water go during the Flood? What did the animals eat on the ark? How did Jesus rise from the dead?) by saying--"It was a fuckin' miracle. That's what God does--he performs fuckin' miracles. You don't like? Too fuckin' bad, those are God's rules, baby..." instead of engaging in an exercise which is doomed to fail--trying to prove the unprovable by twisitng logic into shapes it will not go. Amin7b5 03:52, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

But Andy has always tried to pass CP off as a serious academic and intellectual undertaking, they even list him as an academic on his page. He is vaguely aware of the fact that proper intellectual discourse is based on reason and logic, so what he does is start with the answer he wants and asserts that it is logical. See makes perfect sense. - π 03:59, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Say, speaking of which, what's this nonsense on Andy's user page about the "Hawthorne effect"? I looked it up on WP and it doesn't seem to apply to anything Andy does in any way. Any ideas? --Kels 04:06, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

There is a simple explanation for pretty much anything Andy says; he heard the word(s) once, didn't understand it properly, but he liked the sound of it and so uses it in the way he imagines it means. - π 04:19, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

I dunno yet, but "User:Asclafly" is not taken yet... hint to Anonymous... ħuman 04:20, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Rereading his shit, I think he is under the impression that his students are doing better because so many people can observe their progress and work on CP, rather than the anonymous nature of school work. - π 04:24, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

"The Hawthorne effect is a form of reactivity whereby subjects improve an aspect of their behavior being experimentally measured simply in response to the fact that they're being studied,[1][2] not in response to any particular experimental manipulation." Children behave well in an authoritarian environment? Cue that Michael Jackson song - is it Thriller I hear all over my talk radio these days ("Somebody's watching you")? Anyway, yeah, Andy read the first half-sentence at WP and ignored what it was actually about? ħuman 04:26, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

In fact, it's Rockwell, pretty much the only thing he ever did worth mentioning. --Kels 17:43, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

About Rising from the Dead/horror version. I once read a history of vampires - that is, of vampires in popular culture. The most interesting part was the first half of the book, which dealt with vampires/undead/zombies in ancient and medieval times (that is, before modern fiction). It was a very interesting and illuminating read about the general fears, beliefs, behaviours of people, beyond the specific issue of vampires. If you can put your hands into such a book, I highly recommend reading it. For starters, there is the WP page. Editor at CP^{Oh, Finland! Why?} 09:48, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Jinx & Carrie

Here he comes to save the day!

Nice of Jinx to give us some links. _and marmite 05:42, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Between him and Ed Poor it is a wonder that the family-friendly encyclopaedia isn't over run with smut and swearing. Typical hypocrites. - π 06:04, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Jinx posted a classic comment on Ray Comfort's blog a while back about how Christians were so nice, and atheists were all foul mouthed pirates. Considering the Jinx of yore on RW, I'd guess he must be an atheist. By the way, what's an ultra-gay and where can I meet one? --JeevesMkII ^{The gentleman's gentleman at the other site} 06:10, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Ultragay would make a good villain in superhero comics. Should Superman or Batman fight him? Jack Chick, isn't it time for some superhero action? Editor at CP^{Oh, Finland! Why?} 09:23, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

P.S. No, I DON'T want to know what Ultragay's superpowers or secret weapons are. Editor at CP^{Oh, Finland! Why?} 09:27, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Oooh, but I can have so much fun speculating. Silver Sloth 09:48, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

I fought Ultragay once. I don't want to talk about it. They call me the Merc with a mouth. They say I never shut up. Well, they should have been there the day I fought Ultragay.

-- Deadpool I could have sworn I was using my inner monologue.

That better not be your way of putting comments on a talk page because it's fucking annoying and I will dedicate my life to reverting every comment you ever make if I have to. 194.6.79.200 14:00, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Hordes of teh gayz are advancing on New Jersey

This would seem to suggest that it's not long now before Ed has to live amongst gay snuggling marrieds. And Andy's home state will surely be next and teh gayz will be nesting all around Andy. Won't that be a great moment? That's going to be top-class lulz. DogP 06:47, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Oooh, the homosexual agenda! ħuman 06:53, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

God damn teh gay for wanting marriage. But if you *really* want to get back at teh gay, just deny them Divorce. ;-)--En attendant Godot_{"«Nous naissons tous fous. Quelques-uns le demeurent.»} 15:02, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Breakdown of ken's '20 Videos'

I love this guy. He brags about how 19 of the 20 videos are positive of Conservapedia when searched for under surcher.com. Here's how they break down:

14x video from a 17-part video series from a whacko who seems to be a conspiracy nut who has a link to CP in the sidebar.

1x video from the same nut above who attempts to humourously use a scene from one of the Ace Ventura films to show how evolution is fake - but only succeeds in showing his own ignorance.

1x video by what Ken dismisses as a 'whiny evolutionist with no popularity'.

1x video extolling the repeatedly-debunked claim of 'Darwinism leads to Hitler', with, at the time of this writing, 24 views, one less than the 'unpopular whiny evolutionist' above, yet has been on there since April 30th, 10 days before the 'whiny evolutionists' video was posted.

2x video that is a two-part series extolling the same debunked claim as above, but also adds communism into it.

1x video from a guy who is trying to make a point of some kind, but I don't know what it is, exactly, other than 'Barack Obama is evil', or something like it, which, again, simply has a link to CP in the sidebar.

Zmidponk 11:55, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Yeah but the 19 that aren't the evolutionist appear supportive of Conservapedia. Ken never actively lies, he just strings fact together in a unique and special way that is overall wrong. - π 13:01, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

I admit that I am a little bummed... My "ConservaHitler" (a link would be blatant self-promotion and it's filtered from my office, anyway) video wasn't even mentioned and I was mainly trying to bust Ken's chops with it in the first place. Oh well... The Foxhole Atheist 15:13, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

OK it's old news now but I hadn't seen this one before.

And by the way Foxhole, was this the video you meant? Генгис^{You have the right to be offended; and I have the right to offend you.} 18:23, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, that's the one, Ghengis. Thanks much for the link. It's still at 4.5 stars (out of 11 ratings and 140 views) now that I look at it. The Foxhole Atheist 22:16, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

TK needs this...

... to assist in his "blocking the world" quest. (It's Friday and I'm bored. Wait... it's not Friday. Crap!) --PsyGremlin_Whut? 13:27, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

America should be bigger! And in the center! And shaped like a cross! Damn Liberals. Jimaginator 14:11, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

traditional

xkcd:Map of the Internet

a la xkcd

To use a Peano curve to map the IPs is a lovely idea. I used it for the range blocks which are in place at CP. larron^{sicut fur in nocte} 09:14, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

For the first version, I made an error when calculating the Hilbert curve. Sorry. The new curve is corrected, and agrees therefore better with the xkcd comic... larron^{sicut fur in nocte} 18:26, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

(The gray points indicate blocks: the darker the color, the more of the 65,536 IPs in the square are blocked larron^{sicut fur in nocte} 18:40, 14 May 2009 (UTC))

Geometric growth... bullseye!

How are "straightforward" and "quantify" conservative terms? This is gone from ridiculous to ludicrous, even by Andy's standards. Somebody needs to explain the Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy to Andy. Corry 14:25, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

He's not even trying anymore. I mean, I can't imagine that of all the words left in the dictionary, "straightforward" and "quantify" are the most conservative. What's next, up? Over? Aboveground? We need to start taking bets. Z3ro^talk 14:31, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

I have a sneaky suspicion he's working his way through the collected speeches of St. Ronnie and seeing which words crop up more than once. --PsyGremlin_Whut? 14:45, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Well it's a conservative term cause liberals lie. if you are 'straighforward' you cannot have any deceit. to quantify something is to be open and honest and not use liberal deciet of generic terms like "some", "many" or most. When you quantify, you get to say specific things like "70% of all Hollywood actresses have breast cancer" regardless of having done any actuarial studies, just cause you've *quantified* the term "many". See, it's all logical, folks.--En attendant Godot_{"«Nous naissons tous fous. Quelques-uns le demeurent.»} 15:14, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

I think the list is just a collection of words that make him feel good. -Lardashe

I'm surprised there aren't any socks adding words to that page. Is it locked? 194.6.79.200 15:19, 13 May 2009 (UTC)::::And of course the only liberal terms there are, are things like "abortion", "late term abortion" "atheism", "same-sex marraige" (which isn't *really* a word), etc - few and far between, such uncreative and evil liberal. And since the Conservatives get "pencil", "computer", "iced tea", "November", "hand cream" (for women only, any men's cosmetics are liberal, of course) - then of course the conservative words grow exponentially. --En attendant Godot_{"«Nous naissons tous fous. Quelques-uns le demeurent.»} 15:20, 13 May 2009 (UTC) (edit conflict)

Hand cream for men is RARELY used as a cosmetic, but it's frowned upon by conservatives even moreso. The Foxhole Atheist 15:51, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

There are socks adding terms to the list. 74.7.166.234 16:01, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

This is interesting- The word "creationism" is listed as a liberal term, with the "definition": 'like most "isms", creationism is a derogatory term coined preferred (sic) most by opponents of it.' Bad grammar aside, one would think that IF the term was coined by opponents of creationism, then the term creationism would not be the preferred term on CP, and "creationism" would have an entry which spells out how the term was coined, and how only liberals use it, and we use the term "Godmadeit" or whatever. Having our cake and eating it too, eh? Jimaginator 16:49, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Not only is it the preferred term, ITS ON THE MAIN PAGE. Unless Ken is using the term derogatorily. Is that a word?--CWaddell 21:34, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Is "cake" a conservative word? Cake is tasty, but it makes you fat. And conservative values guard against obesity, except for Rush Limbaugh. So cake must be liberal. But it's not the government's job to tell us not to eat cake, so it must be a conservative word. Perfect geometric expansion! Corry 17:46, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

@Jimaginator: This is/was one of Andy's weirder obsessions. See also cp:Debate:Creationist. If it had been up to him, there would have been a big sweep to change all those "creationist" references. --Sid 18:59, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

It would be rather nice if someone gave Andy access to the OED site, it disagrees with almost all the dates TehArse quotes. But hang on, it's Oxford and you know what their professors are like... LateralQuercus 00:56, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Liberal term growth

I just noticed in the 1700's liberals had 2 new words, 1800's 9 and 1900's 27, they are tripling every century. That means even though Conservative terms had a one or two century head start and a large initial number, because they are only doubling every century, eventually Liberal term will outstrip Conservative terms. Yeah Andy's word project. - π 03:32, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Nice work, except you skipped the 1900s. The only new liberal words in the 1990s were "My Lai" and "Precious bodily fluids". Why? Feminism and Racial Quotas! ħuman 03:40, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Ooops, thanks. Now it is geometric. - π 04:12, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

The Liberal Creep is now affecting English too, socialists like Obama support liberal words because these words deny faith, chivalry, beauty of autumn folliage and Newton's action at a distance, and enforce abortion, gun control, mental illness and humor before christ's time. Just another instance of liberals using liberal deceit. Flare^Talk 14:58, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

CP under attack

Amongst the many vandalism hits that CP is currently suffering was this

COPY PASTE THIS REMOVING THE SPACE INBETWEEN "encyclopedia dramatica.com/Conservapedia"

Says it all, really. Site sucks bro.

Oh, and enjoy your server. It's about to get busted by us guys over at ONM (Official Nintendo Magazine forums),
and 4chan aren't exactly happy with you.

Bye bye, server! Enjoy your DDoS!

Pricks. 

Silver Sloth 17:56, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, it's all fun and games until it happens to us and we don't have a night mode to save us. ^{— Unsigned, by: Neveruse513 / talk / contribs} 18:01, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Oh noes, bunker down, it's happening again!!! Z3ro^talk 18:09, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Ames, Human and Trent are really going at it over there. I'm gonna check the Nintendo forums for this; any brave volunteers to venture into 4chan? EddyP 18:16, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

From the Ninty forums, it appears to be this one regginator3 guy proposing a DDoS and noone has replied. Here. EddyP 18:22, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Somehow I feel that Official Nintendo Magazine forums don't sound really threatening. "Oi! We'se gonna git some boys from Sega Universal to crack yous heads in. You got that?" Vulpius 18:48, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

TK is really missing out on some good range blocking opportunities right now. He's got his target of blocking 5% of the internet to achieve, and he isn't going at it with enough vigour. --JeevesMkII ^{The gentleman's gentleman at the other site} 18:51, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

I'd say he's doing pretty well at the moment. He shot down TaKess earlier, I believe. Still waiting for him to block CPalmer though. EddyP 19:12, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Mystery time!

Yay, And came up with another Mystery article! cp:Mystery:Why Is the Kilogram Losing Weight?

Of course, it is immediately referenced to from the regular mainspace to make scientists look like clueless idiots. --Sid 22:41, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

At least this one is legitimately a mystery. The article is fairly interesting, and it provides a variety of possible explanations. It's ultimately not a very interesting mystery. The more interesting part of the article is figuring out a way to concoct a new method of measuring a K. -Lardashe

Actually the answer to why Le Grand K mass is differing compared to the other cylinders is very easy to explain. The French buggered up the alloy for the cylinders. Now if they had used gold.......they could have called the whole thing a waste of time, made up a figure for a kilogram based on nothing physical, and then pawned the gold cylinders when times get rough. After all, that has been the standard for Imperial measurement countries for years.--199.20.64.195 00:09, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

As Abraham Simpson says:

“”The metric system is the tool of the devil! My car gets forty rods to the hogshead and that's the way I likes it!

-Corry 00:34, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

It never ceases to amaze that for every topic there is a Simpson's quote and an xkcd comic about it. It helps those of us not funny ourselves to contribute humorously to the conversation. - π 00:38, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Just shows how Simpsons used to be well-written and XKCD still is. --Kels 13:16, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Great balls of fire Lightning!

I'm not sure how lulz-worthy this is, but I just found cp:Ball lightning, which consists entirely of:

1. Saying something is impossible, and
2. Claiming that God slew the first person who died from it with a fireball.

Seems a perfect example of a stub to me. The Emperor _{Kneel before Zod!} 00:40, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Unfortunately is a new (soon to be blocked) user. Now if it had been Ed, that would be funny. - π 00:43, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

It's not an edstub? Oh, I thought it was. The Emperor _{Kneel before Zod!} 00:49, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Far too sophisticated a writing style for Poor Ed. ħuman 01:04, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Teacaked. -- 01:29, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Nuked, deleted, and mem'ry holed. Thanks for reading, bitch. The Emperor _{Kneel before Zod!} 01:47, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Too bad, I liked it--Nate River 03:29, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

I missed the whole thing. Sounds reminiscent of one of my articles on another phenomena, though. :) --Marty 05:12, 14 May 2009 (UTC) shhistory

This metaphor is actually perfect

A glimpse of truth from Ken?

Think about it: "creationism" is the bull; a big, dumb, angry animal that's chasing around "evolution"; the dominant, much more intelligent species.

Ken, I got news for you: people yell "Olé" when the bull misses and uh, oh yeah...the bull always dies. ^{— Unsigned, by: Neveruse513 / talk / contribs} 00:43, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

In what context is that picture used? Simply linking to the picture is somewhat uninformative. LateralQuercus 01:02, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

It's usually what is happening to evolution on the internets as a result of some operation or other. Ole! Damn, I forgotten the word I learned that was for when the bull tosses the bullfighter. ħuman 01:10, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

For instance, it's on the main page now. It's always along the lines of "the CP evolution article charges ahead! watch out atheists! Ole!". ^{— Unsigned, by: Neveruse513 / talk / contribs} 01:42, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

With the meth-addled, typo-riddled caption: "The future of Conservapedia's evolution article appears to be very bullish! A creationist just unexpectedly told Conservapedia that he is going to inform tens of thousands of people about the Conservapedia evolution article! A well known creationist is going to email 600 fellow creationist about the Conservapedia evolution article. Evolutionists, you can run from Conservapedia's evolution article, but you cannot hide! Creationists of the world, spread the news about Conservapedia's evolution article far and wide and quickly! Faster, stronger, higher!" - Ken. ħuman 03:48, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Ken is an experiment in what happens when you're banned from using the words "it", "him", "they" etc. 194.6.79.200 15:22, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Windmill

Hi Ken, in regards to your latest regards I think you should put the link on to the mainpage now and take 40 edits to get it right. Then put the picture of the car crushing the can and a bull and matador up also and spend another 40 edits getting the size right. OK? Thanks! Ace McWicked^{Disco Jesus} 02:55, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

I owe Ken an apology. I always thought his article on evolution was a quote-mined pile of shit. After having read that article he is linking to, I realise what a quote-mined pile of shit actual looks like. They have an even worse article then Ken's and they then tarted with his shitty Hitler picture. This is why supports of evolution rarely debate these people, it gives them reflected creditability even talking to them. - π 03:01, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

I particularly like point 2. They are actually undermining their own creation science by not allowing for changes in the radioactive decay rate, etc. ListenerX^TalkerX 04:30, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Beautiful Kenning, Dog. _and marmite 05:54, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Not only do they start with a Hitler picture, they bellow a Hitler speech out of your speakers. Seriously? Also, on their front page (which uses frames or something similarly unpleasant) they have this funny blurb in a bible sellin' section- "Not only are these Bibles a fascinating display of antique craftsmanship and attractive illustrations, they are also loaded with Biblical information." A bible is loaded with biblical information. Nice. Corry 13:08, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Countdown to Ken adding soundfiles to everything in sight, including the mainpage in 4...3...2.... --PsyGremlin_Whut? 13:18, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

He was trying to get Phantom Hoover's music to work once, it doesn't as CP does not have the mp3flashplayer extension. He also tried the video embed once in one of his shout out, which only gave me more to laugh at. He obviously spends a lot of time looking at our site, we rarely have either of those things on this page. - π 13:30, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

He's also tried to taunt us by feeding various pages here into his SEO-O-MATIC and crow about how much better we could do, except nobody here cares about our Google rankings. He assumes we all have the same messed up priorities as him. --Kels 15:07, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Now TK's liveblogging...

...the Daily Show. ħuman 03:43, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Wid we went over this yet?

In CP's article about Young mass murderers, "wore all black, indicative of anti-Christianity" has appeared in one or more people. Don't priests/nuns use to wear black clothing?
and is this asking for "We conservatives don't kill alone; we go in groups"?
(They don't have an article on lynching, apparently) [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 04:57, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Both here & on CP (where it was reverted of course) the black clothing/priests (and Andy, of course) link has been made. _and marmite 05:05, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Yup. Wasn't Andy's revised argument basically "Wearing black with the intent to do anti-Christian things indicates their anti-Christian stance"? --Sid 11:42, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Yup, one of the best ever responses I ever managed to goad out of the assfly.--199.20.64.195 14:18, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Is this parody?

I kind of lose track of these things. (revert in question)
Which of us think this is a Parody? Ken probably did.
[[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 05:56, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes. If they are not an established editor they are parodists (even some of the established ones are too, not to name names _{Jinx hi Jinx!}) Yorick 06:02, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Change liberal to evolutionist and Ken himself could have written it. - π 06:17, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

/K{1}[0-9]{5}/ never ask people to out their socks. - π 06:19, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Rangeblocks

Dunno who's keeping tabs of all these, but here's a few more from TrollKing.

• 92.20.0.0/16
• 92.20.0.0/16
• 90.211.0.0/16
• 206.166.0.0
• 208.70.120.0

--PsyGremlin_Whut? 08:35, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

I believe he should simply block everyone except admins/sysops (since these guys are doing all the meaningful edits anyways). That way it's simpler. [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 14:25, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

MOARRR

Fuck yeah! Almost half million more IP addresses were blocked today and we're not even in night mode yet! Keep it up! User:Nutty Roux/sigtalk 23:00, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Another day in the life slow death of CP

In the 24 hours that were May 13th, there were:

• 350 entries in recent changes (one every 4.1 minutes)

of these, there were:

• • 27 New Users
  • 34 Blocks (including 17 of the new users and 7 range blocks) (TK and Jpatt share the honours here)
  • 12 Pages protected (including TK's talk page)
  • 11 Pages deleted
  • 31 Edits reverted (TK and JPatt doing most of the covering up)

This leaves 235 actual edits, of which:

• • 35 were minor edits
  • 19 were template or Mainpageright
  • 18 User Talk pages
  • 40 Talk pages
  • 7 user pages

This leaves 116 actual mainspace edits, of which

• • 66 were by Sysops (49 alone by RJJ and TerryH)
  • 24 by non-blocked users (half of these by FOIA and Jinx)
  • 26 by subsequently blocked and reverted users

The slow death by self-strangulation continues. --PsyGremlin_Whut? 09:22, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

How do those numbers compare with RW? --En attendant Godot_{"«Nous naissons tous fous. Quelques-uns le demeurent.»} 14:41, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Well, if pull up the most recent 500 changes on WP, it covers the 3 minutes from 16h01 to 16h04. (oh and 1 block - anon only - and no protections and 3 deletions.) --PsyGremlin_Whut? 16:08, 14 May 2009 (UTC) (and just realised you said RW, not WP. I blame old age)

Interesting! When the lectures are completed, the traffic will slow down even further, and we'll miss model answers like The war [i.e., WWII] started in 1939 when France and Britain declared war on Germany. ... larron^{sicut fur in nocte} 09:35, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

"I don't think you've fully addressed the question" followed shortly by "80/80. Well done!". Sheer poetry Cantabrigian 11:34, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

I dunno, there might be a chance for more lulz there. Andy doesn't start one course on the heels of another, so there's a period where he's got nothing particular to do. And what does Andy do when he gets bored? Essay time!! --Kels 13:10, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Oh, I reckon there are going to be yet more lectures coming: Creationism Lectures, Physics Lectures, Chemistry Lectures, and Religious Christianity rules, everything else drools Lectures.--199.20.64.195 14:21, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

There will, but if there's, say, a two-week gap between courses and as we all know Andy only spends an hour or two before each lecture doing research, he'll have a lot of free time for the batshit crazy. --Kels 15:01, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Oh, and just realised something. If the number of contributions by anyone on CP nears zero, all Andy will think and say is that Conservapedia has reached both completion and perfection, a shining example of conservatism, unlike the liberalism of Wikipedia, which being liberal is inherently wrong and that is the reason why the number of edits made to Wikipedia will never drop even close to zero.--199.20.64.195 14:25, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

You know, I think he's just deranged enough for that to make sense in his head. Now roll for SAN before progressing further. ENorman 15:03, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Failed Roll—Wibble.--199.20.64.195 19:22, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't know why I always think of this...

but I often envision someone coming up to me and saying "AHH!!! I have a paper on Alger Hiss due tomorrow!"

And being all like "Hey man, it's cool - I happen to know the location of the largest collection of Alger Hiss information known to man."

One day... ^{— Unsigned, by: Neveruse513 / talk / contribs} 15:19, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Ah, but would you be able to recommend it without the caveat that you have to check every single word to make sure it's not tainted by bias and/or parody? --Kels 16:22, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

No one will ever know if there is parody in that article. It is simply too long to be read. ^{— Unsigned, by: Neveruse513 / talk / contribs} 16:34, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

I never could get up the gumption to read most of the articles there, let alone the novelette that is Alger Hiss. Aboriginal Noise ^{Oh, you want to hit people with garbage cans?} 16:36, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

If I could summon the energy for wandalism, I'd be tempted to employ CSS' shiny new opacity filter to put a big, repeating "TL;DR" watermark in 180pt bold over the article. ^{— Unsigned, by: JeevesMkII / talk / contribs}

I was chuckling at "novelette", then thought "nah, it can't be that big, can it?"
% lynx -dump -nolist http://www.conservapedia.com/Alger_Hiss | wc -w
*mash enter*
31528
WTF? --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 14:08, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Ed Poor rides to the rescue on a slow day

In the good old days this would hardly justify a mention, but I like the pic AND the comment. Also, fans of the professor will want to check out his timely and thoughtful commentary on CP and Tim's resignation here. --Simple 19:44, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Ooo! Professor 188 has a toy. -- Yossarian^{The Man from the USSR} 19:57, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Ah the mode of transport for the man too wimpy even to own a moped. At least when you see Sir Clive buzzing around on his, you know he at least invented the bloody thing and probably built it himself. Ed just looks like the worst kind of nerd. Pedal yourself, you lazy fuck. --JeevesMkII ^{The gentleman's gentleman at the other site} 20:08, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

It looks like it has one of those tiny 2 stroke engines that go maybe 5 MPH so fat feet never need push a pedal, all the while belching clouds of blue smoke and waking people up in their apartments a block away. It would be consistent with the shit CP tried taking on Earth Hour. Ed probably has a 2 stroke generator running 24/7 on the roof of his apartment powering his air conditioner when he's out riding his "bike," which has its own 2 stroke headlamp and a 2 stroke CB radio. User:Nutty Roux/sigtalk 22:26, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Nah, it's a bike with a little battery powered motor for assist on hills. I used to live around the corner from a shop that sold them, along with folding bikes. A two stroke CB would be pretty cool, though. Maybe the antenna would also require combustion, if it was long enough. Corry 01:51, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Holy shit, it really was our Ed. (Third last post.) Vulpius 22:32, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

(EC) As I recall, a year, maybe a year and I half ago, we linked to the news story that used this photo, maybe on WIGO CP...Never mind, Captain Obvious to the rescue....Amin7b5 22:33, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Don't you dare bag on ebikes - I'm a proud rider of one. Though that bike that Ed is apparently riding (still can't quite believe that) is a dreadful yoke - weighs about 100lbs and can barely be cycled at all. Mine weighs about 65lbs which is hell of a lot easier to deal with, and is a normal bicycle, with a motor. And a honking lead-acid battery. DogP^{Marmite Patrol Info here} 02:19, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

I rag for the lulz. Your ebike is rad and you know it, even if it weighs 65 pounds and you remind me of Ed Poor paddling up Lex on his turdmobile. User:Nutty Roux/sigtalk 02:22, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Here is a link to find the pic in another context. Or is this to stalkeresque? At least, it left a smile on my face... larron^{sicut fur in nocte} 04:54, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Ed looks a lot skinnier than he does on his CP profile pic. Also I love the "insulated from all human contact" comment from the link above. If only that were still true... although it does explain a great deal. --PsyGremlin_Whut? 15:17, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

New Relativity WIGO

I like how Andy's dismissal of the clock experiment amounts to "They didn't win a Nobel Prize." I guess I should stop reading Shakespeare. He never won a Nobel Prize. Nor that nice Jesus fellow. -- Yossarian^{The Man from the USSR} 19:57, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Isn't the Nobel prize only awarded to evil lib'ruls anyway? I can't keep up with Andy's doublethink. --JeevesMkII ^{The gentleman's gentleman at the other site} 20:04, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Basically, if something doesn't earn a Nobel Prize and it's something Andy doesn't like, the Nobel Prize is good. If it's something Andy does like and/or American, the Nobel Committee is a bunch of America-hating child molesters. ENorman 21:20, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Maybe let's just discredit ID because neither God Nor any of those people who made up the Idea of ID won any Nobel Prize. [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 22:31, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Conservapedienne?

So what the fuck is this then? A conservapedia vandal site where they retranslate all the CP pages into spanish then back to english? Weird. Ace McWicked^{Disco Jesus} 21:37, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

I think they translate the pages into some other form of English, then treat the pages as if they are written in Spanish. [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 22:33, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

It might be interesting when they add their third article... ħuman 23:20, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Someone needs a time out

Ken tries hard to get more attention_{No one cares!}. In other news, CP gets a new otaku! _{Ken wants some attention, dammit!} And look, Michele Bachmann helped out 23 foster kids. _{Why won't anyone pay Ken some attention?} --Irrational Atheist 22:56, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

I liked how he linked [[Atheism|Conservapedia's Homosexuality Article]]. Epic LULZ! The Emperor _{Kneel before Zod!} 23:59, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

I like the goats in the pretty picture...Amin7b5 00:05, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Those aren't goats, they're sheep! Makes more sense, really... ħuman 00:19, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

I liked how in "Windmill Ministries recently released its article on the theory of evolution. The Windmill Ministries theory of evolutionary article is quite informative and energetic and can be found HERE" he links to their article twice. Ken always repeats himself. And of course made a grammar error. ħuman 00:21, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Luffy is just more noticable now that Jess is gone. God, I rewrote his death note article, then Andy deleted it (the only thing I did worthwhile at CP)--Nate River 00:59, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Heh

This gave me an albeit, cheap laugh. But check out the references and external links section. Ken writes like a 4 year old. Ace McWicked^{Disco Jesus} 03:15, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Is it any surprise ...

... that we are CP's biggest "also visited"? (and that they're ours?) _and marmite 04:39, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

What is smbc-comics.com doing at our "also visited"? do we have nothing to do other than choosing between watching CP and that? I don't find it surprising though; afterall we are the ones who need to read their pages in order to make fun of them. and I am surprised that google doesn't track the visits of RW. [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 04:46, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Not really, in the grand scheme of things we are small pretty irrelevant site. We have basically three things to offer as far as Google is concerned; Conservapedia, Andrew Schlafly and Poe's Law. - π 04:56, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

... and this (whatever it is). _and marmite 05:26, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

We used to have the number one recipe for meth until some fascist here censored it. - π 05:30, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Of course, that meth recipe was something we "stole" from CP... incest is best, I guess... ħuman 06:06, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Actually we are number 1 at search engine starting with G for Ken DeMyer, that is quite a good laugh considering the amount of emphasis he puts on Google rankings. - π 04:59, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Definitely no surprise. But we are very high in the google rankings for other things. "Ask Darwinists" for instance, ranks RW 4th. And some of the more obscure individuals that have articles here bring up RW. I don't think anyone is under the impression that RW is a large and important site, though. ^sshole 12:32, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

homosexuals/ atheist

Pardon the poor joke, but when it comes to Homosexuals, for Ken, bigger is always better (Sorry, I am in school, and don't really have the mental capacity to think of a better one). Now, lets all make stupid jokes regarding homosexuality, Ken and the importance of size.

Conservapedia's evolution article is thrusting ahead! Atheism on the internet will soon be violated by Conservapedia's evolution article's throbbing member! Harder, deeper, faster! 194.6.79.200 13:30, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

windmill ministries evolution article

http://www.windmillministries.org/theory-of-evolution has a nice soundtrack of Hitler speaking presumably German. The article looks like something Conservapedia wrote. Anybody want to count the mistakes ? Hamster 17:06, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

It's definitely not Ken's writing. It's readable by humans, for a start, and it's way too short. Full of lies, certainly, such as how scientific consensus says abiogenesis is impossible. Although other than Ken crowing about it, it's still a garbage article on a forgettable site, so probably not worth spending much time on. --Kels 17:21, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

I wasn't able to read it because it blared Hitler at me when I opened the page. I think this is a great reason for the CP webmaster to install sound and video extensions. Ken could kill CP stone dead in a week if he were given those toys to play with. --JeevesMkII ^{The gentleman's gentleman at the other site} 17:39, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, that's German. And yes, I also support enabling autoplaying sound on CP. Nothing says "This is an honest article!" like Hitler manipulating the masses with one of his speeches. --Sid 19:18, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

I note that "The Producers" is getting its German Premier today. No swastikas in the ads but OK on stage. Don't you have to be careful about blasting Der Führer out of your pc there Sid?

Springtime for Hitler would be a nice CP addition Hamster 19:45, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

The Producers is probably Mel Brooks' funniest work. I almost wet myself the first time I saw Springtime for Hitler. Генгис^{Is the Pope a Catholic?} 20:14, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

OMG, I can't believe I never watched that before! *giggling like mad* XD --Sid 20:59, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Well, we allow Hitler audio/video (with all Nazi symbols uncensored) for documentaries, lectures and stuff like that, so it's not like people will call the police the moment they hear his voice. But it would've caused a few raised eyebrows if I had accidentally opened this page in some public space or with my windows open, of course: "Dude, WTF u doin'?" - "It's cool, I'm just reading about evolution." --Sid 20:52, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Dontcha think the swastika looks like a windmill? Генгис^{You have the right to be offended; and I have the right to offend you.} 20:59, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

As a European who lived in India for a good long time, you never get over the vague sense of guilt every time you go to the store and buy a bag of swastika milk. This is even after you get over the double take of milk being sold in bags in the first place. It's kind of bizarre to see this symbol that in the west we always associate with mass murder being used on such mundane products. --JeevesMkII ^{The gentleman's gentleman at the other site} 21:49, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

the swastika predates hitler by quite a bit. There are versions which face the other way too. Its sad to let one whackjob define the symbol Hamster 21:54, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Having been reminiscing about my days in the Boy Scouts, I should point out that on the side of the Methodist church where the meetings were held a swastika was one of the symbols carved on the wall. Генгис^{Our ignorance is God; what we know is science.} 22:26, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

This bit is not to be missed , not hitler related or about evolution but good for a laugh.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkYBJId7WZs&feature=related Hamster 21:38, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

"Mel Brooks, though, is a genius: he knows that the best way to diminish someone is to ridicule them." - the most recent comment for that clip. Which rather sums up RationalWiki, I think. Генгис^evolving 22:26, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

I see Ken has posted a lame windmill picture on the front page. What made him choose a broken one with only three sails? A subtle message there I think.  Lily ^{Inspirate me.} 11:12, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

You know I have always thought that Ken knows better, he is just one of those "take it all or leave it all" Christians. Either the whole bible is true or not, so he spends a lot of time trying to convince himself that evolution is false, despite all the actual evidence. What I find interesting about Ken's articles is there is not a single false line in them. Each sentence is factually correct, that person did indeed say that quote, he just string it together in a way that is overall false. - π 11:20, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

I dunno about the "not a single false line" thing, but yeah, it's a pure spinjob. Everything is twisted to make the target look bad, every quote is carefully mined, tons of fallacies are used, and sourcing standards go straight out of the window. If you're trying to learn the technique, it's a quite fascinating piece, really. --Sid 11:54, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Geometric fit - still waiting

"I'm also working on a few possibilities for 1700s and 1800s to perfect the geometric fit, but yours is better than mine.--Andy Schlafly 12:15, 14 May 2009 (EDT)" --- I"M STILL waiting for Andy to explain what a "geometric fit" is. I really thinks he means to say logarithmic or exponential... but being andy, he wouldn't know.--En attendant Godot_{"«Nous naissons tous fous. Quelques-uns le demeurent.»} 17:24, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

A geometric series is of the form $a_{n}=ar^{(n-1)}$. When you actually deal with them in mathematics, it's usually the case that r < 1, because then the series converges to ${\frac {a}{1-r}}$. Why he insists on referring to this as a "geometric fit" is simply beyond me. Well, actually, it's because he's totally fucking insane, but whatever... I guess it's technically correct, but a normal person would call it "exponential growth". ^{— Unsigned, by: Neveruse513 / talk / contribs} 17:49, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

I thought that geometric fit is what Andy throws whenever someone disagrees with him. Vulpius 17:59, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

At one point his little list was close to doubling every century, and he got a bug up his ass about it. Funny thing is, he's trying to cram it into exactly doubling, when any "factor" (tripling, *1.25, whatever) would be geometric. That is, he is fixated on r=2. That is probably all he understands of geometric progressions, of course. ħuman 19:00, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm much more amused by Andy being so completely thrilled again and again:

Andy: "Wow! We have soon compiled exactly the number of items to have geometric growth! This will totally prove that conservative terms have geometric growth!"

(later)

Andy: "Wow! We have achieved exactly geometric growth! This totally proves that conservative terms have have geometric growth!"

(later)

Andy: "Wow! The rate is even higher than geometric growth! That totally proves that conservative terms are becoming more and more popular!"

(later)

Andy: "Wow! We have soon compiled exactly the number of items to have geometric growth! This will totally prove that conservative terms have geometric growth!"

(etc.)

It's like watching a dog chase his own tail. --Sid 19:10, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

My favorite is how he seems to have no idea that a) he's defining what a conservative term is and b) he's picking how many terms are used. It'd be like getting all excited because you performed a study where 30 people had the same birthday, but you knew before hand everyone's birthday. Z3ro^talk 19:16, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

This has been one of my favorite bits of Andy's inanity. It's a perfect example of the Texas sharpshooter fallacy. Corry 21:31, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

It's more asking 30 people their birthday, arbitrarily categorize them as "red" or "blue" and getting all excited because they all have a blue birthday. Flare^Talk 21:45, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

I find it particularly odd that he should be so fixated on r = 2 in light of point 12 here (and the associated talk-page discussion).-- Kriss Akabusi^{AAAWOOOGAAAR!!1} 22:19, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Neveruse, my bad. I thought when you explained it before, you were being tongue in cheek. You have to understand. My knowledge of math stopped when it exceeded on hand. (6*7 is WHAT?)--En attendant Godot_{"«Nous naissons tous fous. Quelques-uns le demeurent.»} 23:24, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

EaG, how could you set up such a delightful straight line? The answer, of course, is 42. ħuman 00:57, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

The answer is *always* 42, which doesn't help my math any.--En attendant Godot_{"«Nous naissons tous fous. Quelques-uns le demeurent.»} 01:08, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

TK don't know statistics either

I was about to WIGO this, but items of this type seem to be destroyed in the voting, so I moved it here. Terry Koeckritz trumpets the good news for all to hear: America is a Pro-Life Nation!!!!! by a whopping margin of 51-42 with 95% confidence of a =/- 3 point margin of error... Terry Koeckritz will forgive us if we don't hit the streets. SirChuckB^{DMorris for new Jinx!} 20:45, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

...And while there was a bit of a jump in anti-abortion/pro-choice self-affiliation stats, the underlying opinions didn't move much--a decided minority think that abortion should be illegal under all circumstances, which is the way it's been for umpteen years.--WJThomas 23:34, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

No-one over there has a single fucking CLUE about stats. Baboons in the zoo know more about stats than the lot of them put together. "Selection Bias? Don't you dare accuse me of that, you liberal you. What is it anyway?". DogP^{Marmite Patrol Info here} 23:38, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Since when do they stop using some number line to describe the political position? (As far as I remember they can use a number line for almost anything) [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 02:56, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

No Parodists. Nope, Never.

That new WIGO is great. "There have never been parodists"? Is that so TK? hehehe. Bonus lulz at the fact that now TK is replying to Andy's mail. Ace McWicked^{Disco Jesus} 22:01, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

What do ya wager that "behind the scenes discussion" was Terry Koeckritz just making it up on the spot. Z3ro^talk 22:05, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Since TK and Andy are pretty much the only "senior admins" left, that's a fair bet. TK's main activity of the day was casually disposing of another quarter of a million Europeans. It's rapidly turning in to RJJensen wiki, with TK making sure he's entirely undisturbed by anything like a community forming. Kendoll is taking over the front page piecemeal, while the news becomes ever less newsworthy. The glorious leader has retreated in to his own private madness, and is seemingly oblivious to his state crumbling around him. It's almost worthy of its own greek tragedy. --JeevesMkII ^{The gentleman's gentleman at the other site} 23:30, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

RJJensen - what it must be like to be retired and have enough spare time to inundate CP with so much rubbish that no-one has the time to read through it all. Генгис^{RationalWiki GOLD member} 23:54, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't get RJJ. All evidence points to him being a real historian. Why waste your time on CP? There is WP, Citizendium, or who knows what else he can spend his time on. Maybe even, I don't know, publishing books? But here he is on CP, basically nullifying anything worthwhile he has ever done in his profession. It's very sad, really. I hope that when I retire I don't punctuate my career with a gigantic turd. Corry 02:54, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

He used to be on both WP and Citizendium, he doesn't write much new for CP just copies what he wrote there. His presence at CP is odd, he does all the actual good work and is general treated as a tolerable nuisance, he is generally distrusted by the other sysops as being a "liberal", e.g, he is a conservative but still has his brain in gear. - π 04:34, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

He crossed blades once with Andy, over Niccol Macchiavelli, but he avoids Andy's lectures: he really wants to stay at CP and makes compromises for this. When Clement B. asked him to give his opinion on Prussia is just another name for Germany, he took great pain not to contradict Andy... larron^{sicut fur in nocte} 05:03, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

So he's just another loser on the internet, like the rest of us? ;) ħuman 05:27, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

RJJ reminds me of a man trying to decorate the living room with a Persian rug while in one corner, someone else is digging a latrine (as he is entitled to do, because he owns the place :-) larron^{sicut fur in nocte} 05:33, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Please, let's not talk about RJJ. Editor at CP^{Oh, Finland! Why?} 08:50, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Why not? He may be the most amiable and knowledgeable of the sysops, but he allows for all the ignorance and unkindness to happen... larron^{sicut fur in nocte} 15:11, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

He allows it to happen for reason. Let's let him work there and see where CP is headed with him. --Editor at CP^{Oh, Finland! Why?} 18:23, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Also note that TopKunt has gone back to referring to himself as a "senior admin". --PsyGremlin_Whut? 10:10, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

I like how TK assumes no one can use dictionary.com:

–noun
1. a humorous or satirical imitation of a serious piece of literature or writing: his hilarious parody of Hamlet's soliloquy.

2. the genre of literary composition represented by such imitations.
3. a burlesque imitation of a musical composition.
4. any humorous, satirical, or burlesque imitation, as of a person, event, etc.
5. the use in the 16th century of borrowed material in a musical setting of the Mass (parody Mass).
6. a poor or feeble imitation or semblance; travesty: His acting is a parody of his past greatness.

–verb (used with object)
7. to imitate (a composition, author, etc.) for purposes of ridicule or satire.

8. to imitate poorly or feebly; travesty.

Junggai 13:09, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Remember that guy...

FellowChristian who went to CP to escape the "persecution" of Christians on wikipedia? The page he created and was deleted - you can see the remains of it at cp:Conservapedia:AFD Examples of Absurdities in Wikipedia if any refresher is needed. Well, he's gone now. Parthian shot left in edit comments[1]. TK is doing a good job at even chasing away the true believers - he was exactly the type that CP should have tried to hold on to. --Shagie 22:30, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Nope, nothing informative found on CP. Seems like a disgruntled WP user who got rejected by CP as well. [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 02:53, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Sorry if this is old gnus...

But is this anyone here? Amin7b5 01:20, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Heh! dunno. But JMcH is interested, wonder hoo that is. _and marmite 02:35, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Cache question

A user just asked if there was any update on the FBI incident, which TK predictably deep burned. And then blocked the editor and his city. It's somewhere in my browser cache but I'm too dumb to get it out. Please to halp me wif the FF cachez? User:Nutty Roux/sigtalk 02:57, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

here for the talk. too bad the cache is too old. [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 03:01, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Ya is burneded. :( User:Nutty Roux/sigtalk 03:03, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Back should work some of the time if you haven't close the tab yet, in case you haven't tried. [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 03:05, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

in firefox you can open a new tab and enter about:cache in the address bar, at the bottom is a list cache entries link , depending on your cache settings stuff will stay there for the session or till you clear the cache. Hamster 03:25, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

The answer was "Work Offline" then check your history for the page. Magic. User:Nutty Roux/sigtalk 13:54, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

MOAR FBI

Here and here. Deep burned. User:Nutty Roux/sigtalk 03:34, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Nice work, folks. ħuman 03:51, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

LMAO, since when did asking question be considered lying? Or did TK becomes illiterate as well? Or did TK mean lynching? [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 04:07, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

TK has a "style". For instance, when he extended my block to infinite, he accused me in the reason of sockpuppetry. No one will ever look beyond his reason, so it's a fait accompli that as far as CP knows, I was involved in running multiple socks there. He's manipulating their system in order to destroy them from within. Just be glad he's on their wiki and not ours. EDIT: Or is he? hehe ħuman 04:39, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

TK's words define reality on CP. Someone points out he is copypasting? "No, I am not!" And poof, he's not! Someone shows how he was wrong about something? "No, I was not!" And poof, he wasn't! TK says someone is a troublemaker/sock/parodist/vandal? Poof, he is! TK alone opposes a whole group of editors and claims that his view is the consensus? Poof, it is (and the opposing group is banned)! --Sid 11:48, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Sid it sounds like you're saying TK's a raving poof. Генгис^{Our ignorance is God; what we know is science.} 18:50, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Too contemptible for a WIGO

TK brings up 9/11 in the torture pictures debate. Anything to get at the Obama presidency. ^{This message brought to you by: respond}_and honey 05:06, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Oh wow. I wonder how much lower TK can go. I love that he points out the Obama Administration doesn't shove pictures of the Towers under attack down our throats. He's right about that, that's a badge of honor you can wear all on your own TK, HollowPsycho 07:38, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

You know I never really thought about it before but TK's return was a bit over a week after Obama's election. I wonder whether he was hoping to use it as a lever to get his power back or whether he is actually upset about it and decided to use CP as an Obama bashing platform. That is fucking low which ever either way, using the death of 2,900 fellow Americans to do a highly partisan attack your democratically elected President. - π 08:42, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Heh, there's some implied CP Redefinition going on there: "Torture? That's something terrorists do! We merely use coercive interrogation, nothing to see here!" --Sid 11:40, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Torture pics can be fun. Etc 12:18, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Hmm...

I found this on WP, and I think it more or less sums up CP's administrative policy. Educated wisest Phantom Hoover! 12:08, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

I reckon number 3 is actually official policy at CP. - π 12:16, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

The lot's spot on. ^{This message brought to you by: respond}_and honey 12:18, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Check out the bolded one. - π 12:25, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

And this is even more explicit:

• Wikipedia's "Five pillars of evil": Avoid edit wars with admins, as they are always right
• Conservapedia's "Editing etiquette": Do not revert an Administrator's changes without first discussing it with them, and gaining their permission. Administrators are in charge of deciding the editorial policy of Conservapedia. Their instruction(s) on such matters are always to be followed.

Really, did they TK and Dean (mostly) look at that Wikipedia page to design the enforced CP rules? --Sid 18:47, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

It was started June 2007, so CP had a head start. Maybe it was based on CP in the first place?

BIG articles

Alger Hiss tips the scales at 244kb. Is this a record? ^{This message brought to you by: respond}_and honey 16:47, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Well, let's see.

1. Alger Hiss- 250
2. Pan-Arabism- A surprising 228
3. Homosexuality- 177
4. Joseph McCarthy- 157
5. Koran Airlines Flight 007- A suprising 150
6. Homosexuality and Biblical Interpretation- 130
7. Atheism- 116
8. Evolution- 107
9. Barack Obama- 91

In comparison, our longest article is ‎Eternal Productions:101 Scientific Facts and Foreknowledge, coming in at 121, making it #10 on CP.

Come on, Ken, you're lagging behind. The Emperor _{Kneel before Zod!} 17:03, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Here, you can find a list of the longest articles at CP. larron^{sicut fur in nocte} 17:16, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Actually if you consolidated all Bert's KAL 007 stuff, it'd be phenomenal. ^{This message brought to you by: respond}_and honey 17:19, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

(that takes all the fun out of it though, LArron) ^{This message brought to you by: respond}_and honey 17:20, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Heh! Dubya comes in at 191, not a lot to say about him (Reagan's at 29) ^{This message brought to you by: respond}_and honey 17:22, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

It's interesting reading: cp:History of Poland at #13! (addendum: that's one of Rjj's copies from Citizendium) ^{This message brought to you by: respond}_and honey 17:26, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Hmm, about time he uploaded the pictures for that article. Генгис^unbelieving 18:58, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Sid made this brilliant pic (discussed here). larron^{sicut fur in nocte} 17:48, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

9-11 WIGO

Jesus Christ, that wasn't even a proper complete sentence. I've changed it into something that at least makes sense, but if that wasn't the gist of what the original author was trying to say, please discuss...Amin7b5 18:21, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes let's discuss 3 or 4 incidences of you engaging in arrogant and patronizing grammar naziism by going out of your way to insult people with gems like "learn how to write." Such posts are tons more irritating than bad writing. Stop being such a dick. User:Nutty Roux/sigtalk 19:08, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Dude, this isn't just about "there" vs. "their" types of grammar Nazism--there are a few people leaving tonnes of work behind for others to do by writing stuff that doesn't even make sense because the sentences are so poorly put together. Fixing that kind of stuff up is tedious and often can leave a simple-minded fellow like me worrying that he's completely changed the meaning the author had in mind. No fun at all. Amin7b5 19:13, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

I can assure you nobody on the receiving end of angry and hateful "learn how to write" and "jesus who wrote this" messages, of which there are actually more than half a dozen in the last few days, likes it. One such recipient is a kid. Is that fun for you? You think that's productive? I've seen some examples of what you fixed and can only say that you're being more than a little melodramatic. User:Nutty Roux/sigtalk 19:20, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Then don't edit it. Its not like it was in your contract to fix things...--En attendant Godot_{"«Nous naissons tous fous. Quelques-uns le demeurent.»} 19:22, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Ole ole ole

Ken has come out with yet another Red Telephone, this time encouragin us to do a side by side of a CreationWiki article. Oh dear. The Emperor _{Kneel before Zod!} 19:15, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

PS Ken, you might want to watch this Youtube video on Intelligent design.