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Featured rubbish

I know nobody is editing any more, but surely they can do better than this for a featured article?-- Kriss Akabusi^{AAAWOOOGAAAR!!1} 08:26, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

Well you see Joaquín Martínez wrote that article and he is the person who has taken it upon themselves to chooses the featured article of the week, so no matter how bad it is or how many other articles there are nominated he has to pass over, it gets to be article of the week. 199.33.173.1 08:36, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

I'm waiting with baited breath for his next masterpiece... cp:Christian Cross. It's on the list too, I see, along with Addy's cp:Essay:The Coming Fifth Great Awakening in America --PsyGremlin_Whut? 09:10, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

Oh, I don't know; it's got lots of pretty pictures. That's how I judge the quality of articles. Z3ro^talk 09:39, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

Ah yes, the "Petite Gallery". That's presumably because English (best language in the history of the world, well, apart from Latin, depending on the point you're trying to make) doesn't have a word for "small". Cantabrigian 10:18, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

The problem is that in French, petite just means small but it in English it means small but perfectly formed and as cute as hELL. Генгис^{Is the Pope a Catholic?} 10:29, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

That just goes to show how English is so superior - look how much more meaning it gets out a single word than the pathetic attempt the French language makes. Take that you frogs! Silver Sloth 11:30, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

The French are despicable, just look what the bastards did to Joan of Arc.  Lily ^{Ta, wack!} 13:18, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

SES Testimonial #2: "Because of its [Conservapedia's] unbiased point of view, I can always trust that what I am reading is the truth. When Conservapedia says a gallery is perfectly formed and cute as hELL, it is." --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 14:43, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

Arsenal FC is proposed as a feature article. Apart from the fact that it reads like an essay from a 12 year old it includes the gem "After his unexpected death, George Allison came in and guided them to three consecutive League titles." Jessica agrees that it should be a featured article, further evidence that she is a parodist. JoeDuffy 03:42, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

Nah, just a case of her showing her nice side. You don't think those people actually read the articles they're proofing over there, do you? --PsyGremlin_Whut? 03:59, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

I know we try to ignore conservative

but apparently Ken think Richard Dawkins reads Conservapedia. Hold your breath waiting for a reply, Ken! Z3ro^talk 11:47, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

Dude, the left side of the mainpage is such a mess right now it's not even funny--he's got a shout out to Ricky D. trampling all over Joaquin's masterpiece, and I can't keep up with all the articles of the whatever and guest treasures and whatnot anymore... TheoryOfPractice 11:58, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

I am in agreement with the plan to link spam Ken's shit until it's #1 for evolution on google. Nothing would be better than watching hundreds of unsuspecting people contributing to, and getting banned from, Conservapedia. Neveruse513 11:59, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

I'm not sure what Ken thinks will happen if CP's article gets higher in Google ranking. Okay, I do know. But, does he really think that we're scared that it will get a high rank or OMG!11!1 #1? I say go for it. I hope it is #1. All the more people who will look at it, say "what the... hell... is... this?", hit their browsers BACK button, and then click on the Wikipedia entry. --Edgerunner⁷⁶_{Save me Jebus!} 12:19, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

Ken deleted his evolution article because it's view count had been hyper-inflated. I presume he wanted to see how many views it really gets thanks to his SEO. The only problem is that it looks like it is being bumped again as I have noticed some incredibly large daily page view counts which don't fit in with the normal viewing pattern. Генгис^{Is the Pope a Catholic?} 12:30, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

(EC: Bumped? Maaaybe) It is all quite hilarious. Every week, he's convinced that Operation Elusive Muskrat Saucy Puddle Shambling Doorjam Rotund Crevice will draw thousands of evolutionists to CP, all of whom will the read the article and immediately reject evolution. Likewise every (evolutionist) person who watches one of the inane youtube videos will immediately read the article, reject evolution, and will likely go about skewering sacred cows and secular scientist paradigms. Thus he obsessively records the number of views [1] of the evolution article, even though I'm responsible for at least 80% of them (I'm guessing >95%, but the program I'm using, Obsession for Men, can't keep track). 12:32, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

I am ABSOLUTELY in support of your proposal, Neveruse. The more linkage, the higher the Google ranking for his articles, the more lulz for us as more people drop by to Conservapedia. Now, how can we realistically help linkspam that stuff and get Ken's stuff to No.1 in the charts? DogP 13:06, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

We could make fake blogs that link to it or just linkspam every related forum we can find. Neveruse513 13:20, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

Two things disappoint me about the Main Page right now. A) There is not enough content - the page needs quite a lot more content to help CP get its full, broad-spectrum message across succinctly. And, B) Hitwin isn't high enough up the page. Ken - try to improve the Main Page a bit more please, your work is not yet done. DogP 13:16, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

As I pointed out above, the left side is just Ken and Joaquin - Dawkins and copythefted images. Truly encyclopedic.  Lily ^{Ta, wack!} 13:25, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

0h n0es! Ken's plan is going exactly as forseen! He is using us as his puppet through his cleverly placed socks here! Soon, his site will be growing rapidly! Theemperor

Ken - if you add Stalin to the left of Hitler, we could nickname your picture Shitwin, and that would be funny for us liberal gentlemen for a few minutes, so please do that, OK? Thanks. DogP 17:30, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

User:Conservative/Gentlemen

http://www.conservapedia.com/User:Conservative/Gentlemen Jaxe 15:18, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

Gentleman Jaxe, you're new here I presume. Генгис^{Is the Pope a Catholic?} 15:21, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

Archived for fun. Conservapedia:Sysops/Conservative/Gentlemen --Irrational Atheist 15:42, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

Oh to be new to all those wonderful lulz is a wonderful treat indeed. tealish^??!!!1 16:23, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

I think the others we bothered to save are at the red telephone article? This one was mostly just a CS Lewis quote, wasn't it? Why did we bother, exactly? ħuman 16:54, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

Needless to say, time will tell why we bother regarding bothering. Regarding user Conservative: is he just some kind of malfunctioning artificial intelligence program? It's most likely that in regard to this that time will tell in regard to this most likely. Matt oblong 17:01, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

No, he's a malfunctioning artificial stupidity machine. Ours works better. ħuman 22:17, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

Poor CS Lewis. I happened to like his writing, but now it's all tainted by Ken's assorted effluvia. Regarding his insane rambling, why can't he figure out how the English language works? Matt is right; when a person not only can have their style replicated by a script, but their writing looks like a poorly-written script, something is the matter. 17:34, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

What a strange man Ken is. I look at the logs on CP and it seems that he just obsessively edits and re-edits this drivel, many times a day. If it weren't for basically ruining the main page, I'd say he's a big *yawn*. Let's stop paying attention to him already. It's not like Thunderf00t can't take care of himself when it comes to dealing with these fundie dopes on Youtube, which seems to be Conservative's new fixation. Nutty Roux 22:18, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

Amazingly Ken proves himself even more stupid by admitting that he deleted the Evolution article by accident. And did it twice! Ken you should have maintained it was really for SEO reasons. Генгис^{Is the Pope a Catholic?} 03:47, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

Mainpage

What a joke

This has been mentioned above (I think - somewhere) but the main page is AWESOME at the moment! Pictures of rabbits in holes, Hitwin, Articles of the year, poor children as victims of atheism etc etc. It's such a mess that anyone seeing Conservapedia for the first time (such as, oh I dont know, the New Jersey State Education Board) will wonder what the hell this cluster fuck is. Brilliant! Ace McWicked^Revolt 16:37, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

Gentlemen! I will sink your precious muffin, enabling me to destroy RW pansies on the internet. You should all be pushing over Operation disaster, which will likely give Conservapedia a top result on a certain search engine starting with G.

Dearest Ladies and Gentlemen at a rather liberal website

I just say your last post, your comments in regards to the death of evolutionism on the internet are very ridiculous. As pointed out by Popular Christian YouTuber Shockofgod, Bestiality and the Gay Agenda, you fail to realize that a hard hitting article refuting Atheism is on it's way. In fact, by a time of my choosing, it is likely Secular leftists will have lost all vestiges of credibility. :) :) :)

Rest assured, Operation Alacrity is gathering steam!!! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Sincerely,

A user of the Conservative account

Gentlemen Ace, come out of your intellectual bunny hole at once! --<choose> <option>^Input The Resistor^Output</option> <option>Coyote^{Over 450 pages watched NOT including talk pages}</option> <option>The Trickster</option> <option>Acionyx</option> 16:42, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

Oh yup, as soon as it's mentioned TK clears it all up. Thanks TK! My why dont you send me a thank you email you cowardly piece of shit? In Christ. Ace McWicked^Revolt 17:00, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

aceMcWicked in his insistence on Hitwin has revealed himself as a MUSLIM agitator. A devout english person would read From Left to right and realise that the pic is NOT Hitwin but rather Darler ! Another sample of LIBRUL DECEITINESS .... Hamster 19:21, 7 April 2009 (EDT) just practicing :)

One thing is for sure though... the main page needs more content, bigger images and more content. More of those thumbnails that look like shitty javascript floating things. A scrolling banner along the top part of the screen, READ THE EVILUTION ARTICLE AND PREPARE FOR OPERATION Ken :) :) :). More thought of the day, thought of the month, thought of the year, featured thought of the day. More callouts to prominent scientists and atheists - because they're likely definitely reading this stuff. More stuff on the left-hand side so the right hand side has a massive blank at the bottom. Any noob with half a brain would scrap most of that content shit and devote a sentence or two to explain what the blog encyclopedia is doing. FurryQuack 20:34, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

Another thing it's missing is a hefty quantity of advertising. It would be teh awesome if there was mad Bibble pop-up ads and the like. DogP 21:20, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

I have a feeling that between this and this from Joaquin, the mainpage is about to get more cluttered... with drivel. --PsyGremlin_Whut? 08:48, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

Reading that page I notice that TK is being his ususal jingoistic and boorish self. Генгис^{Is the Pope a Catholic?} 10:18, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

The art and artifice of hyperbole

Over reaction at its finest "On April 2, 2009, the work of July 4, 1776 was nullified at the meeting of the G-20 in London.". Goodness, one trip to europe and the whole damn country is nullified.--En attendant Godot_{"«I don't think in any language. I think in images. V.Nabokov»} 17:01, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

Aschlafly in his pre-Columbia days

T(K)witter

Smoking gun

I reinstated the TK = PatriotGams123 edit as I have been following him for quite a while. For a supposedly youngish mom, PG123 likes a lot of late 60s early 70s rock and is very Reaganite. What you don't know is that until recently PG123 actually had TK as their real name,(wish I'd screencapped that) although along with the image I see it has been changed now. Some clues that it is the TK whom we love and admire:

"RT @falloutkid07 Congressman Barney Frank faces College..." (well known TK subject)

many tweets at RenoCon (TK works in Reno)

He also follows Jpatt ([2] known as jay_pe (Conservapedia)

Posting times synchronise with TK's editing at CP.

He also follows me although he doesn't know it. Генгис^{Is the Pope a Catholic?} 17:07, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

This goes to help confirm my theory that there are no women on the internet and anyone who claims to be so is actually a man 20 years older than the claimed age. --Shagie 17:19, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

Damn, how did you spot me? Oh, you were talking about TK. Генгис^{Is the Pope a Catholic?} 17:23, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

Halp! I'm 84!! _and marmite 17:37, 7 April 2009 (EDT) (85 next month!) _and marmite

Hey, while it makes you 84, it means I can go camping and pee standing up. Oh god in heaven that will be nice. (until you've had to pee squating on a hill side, trying to make sure it runs teh right direction, you simply do not understand the reason we women have penis envy).

Clearly, at that age you'd be toast. Teehee!

Heh heh. On a recent holiday in remote parts, when we stopped for a toilet break the "ladies" were encouraged to go down the hill whilst the "gents" were told to go up the hill. BTW ladeez have you not heard of the shewee? Mrs Khant has found it to be very useful. Генгис^{Is the Pope a Catholic?} 18:02, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

Skillful manipulation enables standing peeing, albeit with slightly bent legs and resulting in moist fingers. WHO THE EFF BROUGHT THIS UP? _and marmite 18:05, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

So TK has his real name before PG123, or was it just TK? I hate to say this, but I'm mildly interested in twitter all the sudden. Norseman^{Cyser Melomel} 17:43, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

The Twitter ID was PG123 but the "real name" was just TK. Генгис^{Is the Pope a Catholic?} 17:54, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

Does "Gams" not mean the same over the pond? To me that reads as "Patriot Legs" & normally fanciable legs at that. (premusably from leg of gammon?) _and marmite 18:12, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

As far as I'm aware it doesn't even mean the same on the other side of the Pennines. Генгис^{Is the Pope a Catholic?} 18:31, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

among others _and marmite 18:45, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

One of the problems with UD is that it often doesn't indicate the area of usage and much slang is highly regionalised. Генгис^{Is the Pope a Catholic?} 09:32, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

Eeeech, the idea of TK on Twitter, *shudder*, thank the Gods I don't use Twitter, if I did, I'd be feeling really dirty right about now.--199.20.64.195 20:19, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

The cool thing about Twitter that's different from IRC, every user is their own Andy Schafly. If you don't like what someone is saying, boom, they are out of your Twitterverse for good.

  

20:30, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

Yeah I can see how ignoring someone is easier than having to learn to support your arguments against criticism. - User $\scriptstyle (6\sum _{n=1}^{\infty }n^{-2})^{1/2}$ 09:03, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

Well some people would rather converse quietly and rationally as though they were sitting slightly apart having tea. Suppose the topic was whether or not female homosexuality was even mentioned in the Mosaic Law, let alone condemned. One party might point out that the two genders are specified in the text, that "mankind shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind" and there is no corresponding condemnation for womankind with womankind. But the other party just keeps saying, "LESBINISM IS A SIN YOUR POSSESSED BY DEMONDS WHY DONT YOU ACCEPT JESUS AS LORD?" At that point its perhaps better to wrap up the conversation and more or less get a restraining order.

  

09:24, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

Vermont wigo

I know it's going down hard, but some more diffs might save it yet? As of a few repairs, it still reads "On April 7, 2009 activist legislators voted legalize same-sex marriage in Vermont, the first time in the nation's history that a legislature has ignored the voters' will on the issue."

Activist legislators? Parody or stupidity? Who wrote it first? TK? (so that would be both) Legislatures are the fucking "voters' will"! Especially in majorities high enough to override a veto! ħuman 01:21, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

Yes, but they used one of the conservative "magic words": activist. To a certain right wing mindset, all it takes to dismiss something is to use certain words in reference to it -- "liberal", "politically correct", "socialist", "activist", et cetera et cetera et cetera ad infinitum ad nauseam. MDB 07:03, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

Part of the frustration/irony is that the Right Wing never listens to itself. When judges decide something (like gay marriage equity) the Right screams "let the legislature decide" "This should come from the law makers, not judges". But when those law makers *do* decide, then the right screams something new. When voters allow gay marriage in popular vote, I'm sure all the voters will simply be activist voters, right?--En attendant Godot_{"«I don't think in any language. I think in images. V.Nabokov»} 10:24, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

Remember when conservatives were SCREAMING for judicial activism in the Terri Schiavo case? Corry^{It's an illusion, Michael!} 10:36, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

The bigger irony is that they have no problems overturning the "will of the people" when it suits them. Godot should be familiar with this in Colorado. After the Columbine massacre, the voters overwhelming approved an amendment to the state consitituion requiring backround checks for all gun show purchases. A new bill in the legislature would eliminate that provision as long as the buyer has a concealed carry permit. The right is wetting themselves over this.... So the will of the people apparently only matters when you're on the losing side. SirChuckB^{A product of Affirmative Action} 11:54, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

Wtf !??

Um. TK is against the inclusion of a "Democrats and casual sex" article, citing the fact that both political parties have had their share of sex scandals and it would be inappropriate to single out only the Democrats. What is this plot twist?! tealish^??!!!1 02:18, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

Between that, his earlier statement that not all great composers were German, and this fifth-columnist support of well-known liberal/communist newspaper The Guardian, it's clear the world is being shaken to its core. DogP 02:46, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

Anyone feel like writing Conservapedia related fiction?

Novelas is starting a collaborative project and I’ve created a character for the story. I feel this may need Schlafly experts from RationalWiki. We need Schlafly experts to ensure there is plenty of accurate criticism of Andrew Schlafly and nothing that could lead to successful legal action. See below. Fiction stew ^{— Unsigned, by: Proxima Centauri / talk / contribs}

It's now here. Proxima Centauri 11:49, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

I've had an idea for a satire on the left behind books, and Christian fiction in general that I've dubbed "Redneck Rapture" rattling around in my head for a few weeks now. I've pretty much got the first chapter down in my head, but I thought I'd wait 'til NaNoWriMo to commit it to paper (by which time, I'll have inevitably forgotten it.) --JeevesMkII ^{The gentleman's gentleman at the other site} 02:50, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

If you have drunk of the Mead of Poetry, you must take up your pen while you are still drunk. ListenerX^TalkerX 02:54, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

Andy, Ed, TK slash fiction? --Shagie 03:15, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

Ken is the one with the obsession in that area. ListenerX^TalkerX 03:20, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

Ed would do well in some teen porn. _and marmite 03:23, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

Ed and Ken living together sounds like a recipe for an odd couple sitcom to me. A fairly dark sitcom, but still funny. Is there already a sitcom called Closeted? --JeevesMkII ^{The gentleman's gentleman at the other site} 03:43, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

(UI)Sorry, it's already been done decades ago, it's called A Confederacy of Dunces. That's why one of Andy's aliasses is Ignatius. --GTac 04:50, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

Is it too soon to officially deadpool CP?

I think CP is now more or less officially life extinct. All they have left is Andy, Karajou, JPatt, Kendoll and TK who essentially do no editing. All the actual edits in the last few weeks have been from RJJensen, whose card is marked for being far too liberal (read sane), JessicaT and JM. Then there's a smattering of one issue wonders like the KAL007 nutter, Daniel1212 and FOIA. I don't think RJJensen and JessicaT can be long for this world, so where does that leave CP? Dead, dead, dead. --JeevesMkII ^{The gentleman's gentleman at the other site} 04:11, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

Certainly getting there, yup. Ace McWicked^Revolt 04:14, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

The death of CP is going to be hard to measure. Sure the activity is minimal now, but it has always been seasonal. It will only go off-line if Andy stops paying for it so that is unlikely with in the next 2 to 3 years. If in 6 months time we don't even have enough to WIGO more than once or twice a day then maybe we can declare it dead for most purposes. - User $\scriptstyle (6\sum _{n=1}^{\infty }n^{-2})^{1/2}$ 04:19, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

Wait until HSmom's gone - she's a real bellwether for the site. She's consistently been the only sane one there with the spread of activity. Jess has been taken over by the Andy/TK/Kara way and RJJ has never really done anything but perform factual edits. _and marmite 04:27, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

RJ has not really added anything "new" per say, just new to Conservapedia, it is all stuff he has written before. He is not spending huge amounts of time there considering the amount of writing he is adding. - User $\scriptstyle (6\sum _{n=1}^{\infty }n^{-2})^{1/2}$ 04:31, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

Will CP become the Terri Schiavo of wikis? Who will finally pull the plug on Andy's brain-dead love-child? Генгис^{Is the Pope a Catholic?} 04:46, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

The SES application rejection will be the death knell. _and marmite 04:54, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

I dunno. I have a horrible feeling that Andy knows his application is doomed, but is going to use that as a rallying cry against "liberal formal education" or some such. That said, very few of his homeschoolers seem to edit there these days, which given that was the reason it was created in the first place, seems odd. Add to that the fact that most of the other regular editors, including those like CPalmer and Wesley, who were actually interested in keeping the wiki tidy, are over at Phil's Place and having found that wiki's don't need an oppressive atmosphere are unlikely to return and we're probably looking at the face of CP for the time to come. It's going to remain Andy spouting his increasingly bizarre brand of nonsense, JPatt launching his Obama-hate, Ken with his shout-outs to people who don't read CP and TK's trolling along with various wandals. The dream of it ever being a wiki to contend with WP is long dead. PJR's wiki was probably the straw that broke the camel's back. --PsyGremlin_Whut? 05:15, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

CP is a long way from dead. You can eke out these things for years with minimal activity, especially with vigilant and malicious people to police the place. It will just turn into a frozen city, with a handful of improvements every week like a smear of plaster on a crumbling wall, and a vicious little gang of tyrants. It can never really die, since the only thing that can bring it down is if Andy decides to close it. And he won't do that for a very long time, even after it has essentially ground to a halt. How would that fare for his ego, after all?

Even if legitimate edits were almost entirely gone, Andy could keep the place going just by continuing to force his students to work on the place. He started out that way, and he could perpetuate it under that power indefinitely. Don't look for CP to die for years yet.--Tom Moore^{fiat justitia ruat coelum} 05:35, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

A few months ago, I wouldn't have predicted that CP would go the way that it has. Firstly, PJR had a long record of putting up with the madness of Andy and co. and continued to face off against the other obvious idiots/trolls. Even on the Obamuslim issue and gun control, he seemed to get uppity about it all and then just go quiet again.

Secondly, the return of TK has been a totally bizarre episode. Despite his track record, he's successfuly made it an impossible environment for any supposedly reasonable editor. Some people here were saying he was trying to take over CP, which was impossible due to Aschlafly keeping the keys to the kingdom. What he has done is to troll the place into the ground. Bravo, TK, but you're making life boring for the rest of us. Bondurant 06:10, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

I don't think TK cares, so long as he can continue his power-tripping. - User $\scriptstyle (6\sum _{n=1}^{\infty }n^{-2})^{1/2}$ 08:08, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

More and more, I suspect CP's ultimate demise will come when the entire thing is revealed to be a hoax. No human being could possibly be as utterly dense as Andy Schlafly with regards to TK's obvious parodist status. TK either really is Andy Schlafly, or is one of his best friends, and is part of the hoax. MDB 07:08, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

You know, I thought the same with the Bugler episode. The Assfly couldn't possibly be stupid enough to believe that Bugler was for real, he must be on to him but using him as a tool to clean up his wiki cost free. Then I remembered all the other things the Assfly does, and it hits me. No, he really is that stupid. --JeevesMkII ^{The gentleman's gentleman at the other site} 07:27, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

I suggest a sweepstake. How about for guessing when 500 recent changes in CP's mainspace covers an entire week. I'm currently seeing four days, so I'll guess 25th October this year. Bondurant 08:17, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

I can see only two days, what filters do you have on? - User $\scriptstyle (6\sum _{n=1}^{\infty }n^{-2})^{1/2}$ 09:06, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

Great mental image, Tom Moore! Czolgolz 09:06, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

Just the drop down-box selected to (main) and show 500 edits, π. Bondurant 09:22, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

I can see 4 days of edits on RationalWiki with those settings. - User $\scriptstyle (6\sum _{n=1}^{\infty }n^{-2})^{1/2}$ 19:24, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

We don't pretend to be an encyclopaedia or have arbitrary rules like 90/10, or even claim that this site is growing rapidly. Bondurant 04:37, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

At some point so much of the world will be banned that *everyone* will have to use a proxy to access CP and continually endeavor to find a new one to start a new account every time TK or Karajou re-bans them. TK, Karajou - you're fucking clowns. I was legitimately trying to edit at CP but you kept banning me for using a proxy. Can either of you geniuses figure out why someone might HAVE to use a proxy? You apparently blocked my entire ISP, that of the coffee shop down the street, and my friend's university. Nitwits. 70.228.38.134 15:10, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

Yep. You can't edit CP from most of the coffee shops with wifi I'm ever in. Oh dear. DogP 15:13, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

Pinochet

I was reading cp:Pinochet and came across this scary bit: "Leftists complain that during his time in power over 3,000 people were killed or vanished,[1] but that total includes Marxist terrorists fighting to restore the constitutional government against the treasonous foreign-backed Pinochet dictatorship. In addition, over a quarter million Chileans were arrested."

In other words, it's fine for the government to abuse you as long as we think they're the good guys. Somebody should point out to them there are no good dictators. --PsyGremlin_Whut? 10:08, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

In Conservative-world, there are good dictators. That's why they had two words for them during the Reagan years: "totalitarian" and "authoritarian". The former meant "dictatorships we don't like" and the latter meant "dictatorships we do like".

Now, I think an argument can be made that sometimes you have to deal with nasty people to lessen the impact of even nastier people. But that doesn't mean you're not dealing with dictators. MDB 10:31, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

It all boils down to "The Enemy of my Enemy Is My Friend". Stalin was the enemy of Hitler so he was our friend. Marcos was the enemy of Ho Chi Mihn so he was our friend. Even as recently as 1988, we forgave Saddam for almost sinking the USS Stark (kilt a friend I knew in CT-T "A" school) because he mistook it for an Iranian frigate.

  

12:31, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

I seem to remember reading that the Iraqi government promised to "punish" the pilot. His "punishment" was a new car. To be fair, thr wikipedia article on the USS Stark does not refer that. It does say American officials said the pilot was executed, but an ex-Iraqi Air Force offices said he was not punished, and still alive at the time. MDB 13:42, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

TOR

Has Karajou any knowledge of the internet? In less than 24 hours, he made eight /16 blocks - all for an infinite duration. And can someone explain to him how TOR works? I suppose that most ISPs have users who provide TOR-nodes. larron^{sicut fur in nocte} 12:26, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

Of course he doesn't, he's an ex-swabbie. We all know the skills they have:

:D --JeevesMkII ^{The gentleman's gentleman at the other site} 13:11, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

Building height WIGO

Andy's just being an ass per usual, but his "no building is of equal height" statement can be true if you're looking at the 0.000001mm precision. tealish^??!!!1 13:34, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

That one was me, I just found it funny that in order to back his claim that languages can be ranked, something that can't be proven, he claims that no two buildings are ever the same height... Something that can proven false... In fact, until they fell, I believe the WTC towers were exactly the same height. SirChuckB^{A product of Affirmative Action} 14:25, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

GROWL. See, Andy has this problem with understanding that parts do not make a whole. "a culture" made of years of interaction with others, made of religion, made of philosophy is the **same as** its language. His argument about the tribal language of some tribe that has no written history and has no real "technological" accomplishments assumes that if the tribe is worse, the language is worse. if the culture is not advanced, the language is not merely "unadvanced, technologically", but is itself *as a language* worse. How does he not understand this?--En attendant Godot_{"«I don't think in any language. I think in images. V.Nabokov»} 14:32, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

Nay, they had a gap of 2m in height.

HOW GOOD SOMETHING IS IS OBJECTIVE LIKE THE HEIGHT OF BUILDINGS, STOOPID LIBRULS!!! Neveruse513 14:40, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

He has clearly never been in a former Warsaw Pact country where you can see the same hulking apartment block built over and over again for miles. Corry^{It's an illusion, Michael!} 16:00, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

Or a British housing estate full of hundreds of identical houses. Totnesmartin 16:24, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

It's not just Britain that has hundreds, nay thousands, of identical dwellings. Check out much of urban northern Europe and you will find mass produced houses and appartments albeit often with better quality build standards. Генгис^{Is the Pope a Catholic?} 17:10, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

How long until we hear that the Empire State Building is better than the Sears Tower, Central Plaza, the Eiffel Tower, the Three Gorges Dam and the Kremlin? NightFlare 17:43, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

For those of you wondering why it is so absurd for Andy to claim that no two buildings are equal in height, see wp:How Long Is the Coast of Britain and wp:Pigeonhole Principle. Of course, the Pigeonhole Principle is traditionally proved non-constructively, so Andy may simply not believe it. Coarb 17:55, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

Wikipedia lists a few buildings in the USA having the same height. Not only that, but with millions of homes, it would not be difficult to find two with precisely the same height; especially with many being premanufactured homes these days. --Irrational Atheist 22:16, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

Let me be explicit. Assume there are only 100 million buildings and that they are all shorter than 1km. If Andy has a magic tool that measures building height to tenths of a millimeter, there are still only 10 million possible building heights: 0 m, 0.0001m, .. 999.9999m. That means that two buildings must be the same height.

I think these numbers are conservative; I expect normal humans only measure building height to centimeters, I expect there are a billion buildings, and I think the tallest building is under 900 meters in height. In order to avoid collisions, we could relax one of these numbers, but we would have to do so dramatically:

• Andy could measure building to micrometers, about the size of a bacterium
• There could be only 90,000 buildings
• The tallest building could be 10,000 km tall.

That is, assuming I got my arithmetic right. Coarb 04:50, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

A mathematician could model the height of a building be a real number. Assuming furthermore, that the theoretical distribution of heights is smooth, and that there is only a finite number of buildings on the earth, the probability of two buildings having exactly the same height would be zero, and any statement that building A and building B are equally tall would just be a result of the insufficient accuracy of measuring them.

However, in our physical world there are limits to the accuracy with which a measurement of a building can done. Just think about the influence of temperature, air pressure, humidity etc. So, for any realistic accuracy, you'll find buildings of the same height.

larron^{sicut fur in nocte} 05:13, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

And an afterthought: if you have to buildings, one of ~ 100.001 m, the other ~ 99.001 m - and you cool down the first and heat up the second - no mathematician will deny that there is a point in time when both buildings are exactly of the same height, as he'd take the shrinking and the enlarging processes to be smooth....

larron^{sicut fur in nocte} 05:18, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Surely the second law of thermodynamics denies such a possibility? :) Totnesmartin 05:55, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Always worth pointing out the occasional positive thing

We bitch and moan so much here about CP sometimes it just becomes this monotone. So it's good to now and again express some gratitude for even our favourite CP moron standing up for what's right, and trying his darndest to get the hateful xenophobic morons over there to just lay the fuck off the Obama Is a Muslim OMG thing. Well done Ed, and thanks. DogP 15:11, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

Short-lived kudos to Ed. Neveruse513 15:21, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

Andy's response? "Ed, you make a valid point, but for Godwin's Law activation, add words here.

Karajou also rewrote the BHO article and had it reverted by Andy. Andy is just bonkers. Генгис^{Is the Pope a Catholic?} 16:29, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

So what if Obama is a Muslim or a Scientologist or worships dust bunnies. The US Constitution, Article VI, section 3 says, "...no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States..."

  

16:33, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

Yeah, but if Obama is a Secret Muslim, it means he lied about his religion! And do you know who also lied? Adolf Hitler! --Sid 16:59, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

I never even looked at the CP article on Obama until just now, wow, that makes the Onion look like the Wall Street Journal online. Allegedly born in Hawaii. Mind control rays.

  

17:02, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

Don't laugh at mind control rays. They are very real and they come from Hawaii

Actual Mind Control Ray from Hawaii. Funny how Obama denies training these creatures.

--GTac 07:34, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Something that really cracked me up about Andy's reply was the last part of the first paragraph: "Do you think Obama told the truth when he campaigned as a Christian? I don't, and that raises valid questions about what the truth really is that Obama was lying about."

Yep, Andy Schlafly doubting Obama's religion claims raises valid questions about Obama's religion! Just wait until Andy doubts that evolution really happen-*phone rings* Mh? What was that? The beauty of fall leaves? Yeah, what about it? It what? Disproves evolution? Really? Huh! --Sid 17:04, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

Andy doesn't believe Obama, and that raises valid questions about Obama's Christianity. That's all it takes to validly question the truth of something is to be skeptical? I suppose that means anyone who believes every word that comes from Andy's lips has no validity to raise any questions.

  

17:24, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

Its a bad idea to say anything good about Conservapedia, because TK will revert it. --<choose>

<option>^Input The Resistor^Output</option> <option>Coyote^{Over 450 pages watched NOT including talk pages}</option> <option>The Trickster</option> <option>Acionyx</option> 17:26, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

Oh, you just know that Andy will never let go of the Obama article. I mean come on, head of the Harvard Law Review, successful teacher, successful lawyer, successful politican, well liked and with a nice, well-balanced and unnutty family, Obama has succeeded at everything that teh Assfly has failed at, and if that wasn't bad enough for teh Assfly, in his mind Obama managed to do that whilst being the wrong color and having a non-WASC name.199.20.64.195 17:40, 8 April 2009 (EST)

Obama hasn't got his own wiki. Генгис^{Is the Pope a Catholic?} 01:53, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

No, just, you know, "us.gov". Cheap url, really. ħuman 01:56, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

What really gets me is how Catholics go on about how Christian values built the US when one of the 'Intolerable acts' allowed Catholics to still practice in Quebec--Nate River 20:42, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

I wonder what Christian values built the US. Maybe Ephesians 6:5 Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ.

  

21:17, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

I wonder why you give a shit so much as to quote chapter and verse to unmake your point? ħuman 01:56, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

I had this discussion in class just the other day... I loved watching the Christian guy squirm. He made the point u United States being based on Christian values and I pointed out all the things that the US have never put into effect (thank goat on some of them) he also didn't beleive the whole god directed stoning of the stick guy until someone looked it up. SirChuckB^{A product of Affirmative Action} 12:14, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

New bug - feature!

INDENTED!

unINDENTED!

Look over there

OK, Nx has been working on this thing asked to him to make, basically a link to a random CP namespace page that only shows on those namespace pages. For the CP addicts who come here.

One concern we had was whether to indent the "new" link or not. Screenshots of both ways are "attached".

4

I like INDENTED

49

I like unINDENTED

-2

It all sucks, I hate RW

42

Goat

9

I wish TK ran this site instead of these idiots

Knock your delighted voting selves out. We'll ignore the result and pick what CUR likes. ħuman 01:53, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Yeah right. --<choose>

<option>^Input The Resistor^Output</option> <option>Coyote^{Over 450 pages watched NOT including talk pages}</option> <option>The Trickster</option> <option>Acionyx</option> 13:22, 10 April 2009 (EDT)

It's not so hugely interesting as to merit an indent, even though it is pretty cool; leave it unindented, so it won't distract.--Tom Moore^{fiat justitia ruat coelum} 02:13, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Nx rocks! and I vote for not indented. Refugee^{talk page} 02:35, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Nx invented rock! unindented. _and marmite 02:46, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Have I had too much to drink? Why do I not get what the hell is going on here? Ace McWicked^{bitch and moan} 02:51, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Did somebody link to the same pic twice, cos I can't see a difference. Or maybe I don't know what I'm looking for. However, I will relax in the warm feeling that CUR has the final say. Well, it's either that, or incontinence... --PsyGremlin_Whut? 03:44, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

I don't care. --<choose>

<option>^Input The Resistor^Output</option> <option>Coyote^{Over 450 pages watched NOT including talk pages}</option> <option>The Trickster</option> <option>Acionyx</option> 13:22, 10 April 2009 (EDT)

Look at the navigation toolbar on the left. --  Nx/talk  03:47, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Wahey! we can has t'others plz? Totnesmartin 05:57, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

You can (RandomAny.js) --  Nx/talk  11:12, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

I literally have no idea what's going on, so I clicked unindented like the little conformist bitch that I am! You all seem to think that CUR gets the final say anyway, so it doesn't really matter... SuperJosh "crying into a flannel" 06:35, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

I'd have voted cheetah if the option were there. Wake up, CUR and tell us what it's to be! Bondurant 06:50, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

If you actually want to know, I voted unidented, but really don't care. --<choose>

<option>^Input The Resistor^Output</option> <option>Coyote^{Over 450 pages watched NOT including talk pages}</option> <option>The Trickster</option> <option>Acionyx</option> 13:22, 10 April 2009 (EDT) Why does it only appear in CPspace pages? Totnesmartin 10:33, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Because that's what Human said. --  Nx/talk  10:47, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

When I head over to CP, I tend to head to the recent changes page rather than hit a random article. Speaking for myself, I'd fine a "Recent changes at CP" link kind-of useful if I was feeling too lazy to go into my favourites menu. Bondurant 11:27, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

It won't be useful for many people, of course, but the "goal" was to allow people who want to to wander through the CP articles (the namespace, anyway) randomly. It's more for "visitors" than heavy users, I think. Oh, and I woke up with a bug in the ointment of what it says: "random CP page" might be read as "random page at CP" rather than "random page about CP" - any ideas on better wording that will still fit neatly in the navbox? ħuman 15:08, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

So, everyone voted for unindented (well, OK, I voted for goat) but it gets implemented as indented anyway? Is this what CUR wanted? :D --JeevesMkII ^{The gentleman's gentleman at the other site} 13:18, 10 April 2009 (EDT)

Who cares? --<choose>

<option>^Input The Resistor^Output</option> <option>Coyote^{Over 450 pages watched NOT including talk pages}</option> <option>The Trickster</option> <option>Acionyx</option> 13:22, 10 April 2009 (EDT)

not bad, not bad at all...

edits per day at RW

individual editors per day at RW

larron^{sicut fur in nocte} 07:40, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Now take out the talk page edits and see what's left... Totnesmartin 09:17, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Huh?

Why do I have the horrible feeling that in what passes for Andy's mind, he's equating working from home with home-schooling. Difficult to classify? Gosh - that's probably because life can't be divided into conservative/liberal, you freaking moron. </rant off> --PsyGremlin_Whut? 09:28, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

I doubt it -- he lists telecommute under "words difficult to classify". The fact he lists it at all is odd, but I wouldn't read that much into it. MDB 09:40, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

OH DEAR GOD. The best part is he doesn't know how to use a dictionary. he defines the origin of telecommute as "tele" + "commuter" (which is not the root, but ok)... then goes on to suggest that commute means "to exchange", which is the *first* definition in his beloved Miriam Webster, but only when it's got an object. the intransitive verb means "to travel to a job". god help me. --En attendant Godot_{"«I don't think in any language. I think in images. V.Nabokov»} 13:36, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Bush bowed too WIGO

I think this one is a little overblown...

http://imagesource.cnn.com/imagesource/player.swf?streamer=rtmp://isfms.cnn.com/vod&file=mp4:895/05281895&type=video&controlbar=none&autostart=true&width=480&height=324

Equating the lowering your head so that someone can place a necklace on you with a full, formal bow is a stretch. Neveruse513 13:48, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Obviously that is what comes of trusting some of the yarns they spin in the public houses about here... ListenerX^TalkerX 13:55, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Calling accepting a medal a "bow" is a stretch, but Bush did hold hands with Prince Abdullah. MDB 14:57, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Don't judge their love! --Kels 15:06, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Kels, that's the funniest thing I've read all day. Corry^{It's an illusion, Michael!} 18:39, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Sometimes I swear Obama is just fucking with über-conservatives. Neveruse513 14:04, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Obama as liberal troll. I like it. Totnesmartin 14:52, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

I disagree.... It was still a bow, Both men are about the same height, he didn't have to "lower his head." SirChuckB^{A product of Affirmative Action} 15:20, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Congrats...you're just as bad as them. Neveruse513 16:14, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

I'm assuming you mean me... My point isn't OMG Bush is a traitor.... I'm merely trying to point out that Obama didn't do anything new or unique and people should stick to major issues. SirChuckB^{A product of Affirmative Action} 16:25, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Watch closely how this works. I suppose the next time you receive a medal you'd rather it smack you in the face than show weakness by submitting to the guy giving it to you.

I'm merely trying to point out that Bush didn't bow as you claim he did. If you want to equate any downward motion of the head with a bow, you are free to do so, but it is a specious argument. And yes, of course none of this matters. Oh noes...Obama tryd 2 sho sum respekt!!! Neveruse513 16:36, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Given that President Adams also did some bowing, I have replaced the link to the Bush picture with a link to the entry on Little Green Footballs. ListenerX^TalkerX 16:51, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

EdStub time!

My evening is complete. Now I go drinking, or participate in a fertility rite. (If there is a gOD, he'll liveblog this one for us, too) --PsyGremlin_Whut? 14:22, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Well, at least it's encyclopedic. DogP 14:23, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

The word-count of the original stub was obviously too low for his liking, so he has added some redundant phrasing. ListenerX^TalkerX 14:26, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

That's a considerable increase in the amount of information in that article, so clearly the article is evolving. DogP 14:29, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

I never thought I'd see an article about that episode that failed to mentionits central character, although, true Ed style, yeoman Rand gets a mention. Obvious much Ed? Totnesmartin 14:51, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

He's topped himself SirChuckB^{A product of Affirmative Action} 14:59, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Good heavens, he's liveblogging a 43-year-old rerun! --Kels 15:05, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

EDPOOR LIVE BLOG!!!!! Get your popcorn and enjoy... SirChuckB^{A product of Affirmative Action} 15:07, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

the phrase "Captain Kirk beams aboard a pimp" creates a rather horrifying mental image. Totnesmartin 15:10, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

I was much more disturbed by Ed's "three stupendously seductive women." I need a brain scrubber SirChuckB^{A product of Affirmative Action} 15:18, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

I look forward to the article on attempted rape --Runderful

I don't look forward to a certain episode with a title Ed might like. Totnesmartin 15:29, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

OK, so who is going to figure out which episode is next on the DVD, or on the marathon on Ed's cable channel? ħuman 15:34, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

I love how his physics side is offended by the plausable "spiraling" of a plane in orbit... but isn't offended that a beam of "something" could take you apart, send you somewhere else, and reconstitute you (unless of course it breaks, and you are split in to). --En attendant Godot_{"«I don't think in any language. I think in images. V.Nabokov»} 15:53, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Yes, but, you see, the more implausible something is, the less objection Ed has to it, which is obviously why he is currently engaged in Moon-worship. ListenerX^TalkerX 16:25, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

I was teleporting home one day

With Ron and Sid and Meg

Ron stole Meggie's heart away

And I got Sidney's leg --Kels 16:29, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Moar Ed. Surely somebody who follows some weird eastern cult would know that spirits and ghosts are two different things. Idiot. --PsyGremlin_Whut? 00:49, 10 April 2009 (EDT)

The animation snob in me wants Ed strung up high for daring to sully any aspect of Miyazaki's work with his filthy presence. Although I do, despite the film being a masterpiece in its field, prefer Whisper of the Heart. It speaks to me more directly. --Kels 00:53, 10 April 2009 (EDT)

Coincidence, Ms Kels? _and marmite 09:19, 10 April 2009 (EDT)

Actually, that's not a bad article. Note that Ed has kept his filthy pedopaws off of it thus far. didn't realize it was out on DVD in North America though, I'll have to look that up. I've got a birthday coming up (Wednesday!!!), so maybe I'll treat myself. --Kels 13:37, 10 April 2009 (EDT)

Another wonderful day at CP

We have enough of these on WIGO, so I didn't wanna put it there.... But it's Denver, so it's close to my heart.... I give you, CP in a nutshell: A guy signs up, points out the Bush bowed too thing from Little Green Footballs. After a few normal debate discussion, TK comes blustering in and in the process accuses LFG of having Obama Idol-worship (Snort). Other guy responds politely and TK snaps. He makes a badly formatted reponse claiming sock and proxy Guy responds politely again and Boom goes the dynamite and just to add some good conservative deceit, TK shuffles that last response under the rug. SirChuckB^{A product of Affirmative Action} 15:15, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

I'm hesitant to accuse anyone on CP of being a parodist, I wasn't even sure about Bugler, despite how obvious he was. But man, even without knowing TK's past, it's obvious that he's a parodist. Or if not a parodist, an anarchist who wants to destroy everything they believe in, moreso than any parodist does. -Lardashe

Definitely anarchist. Actually, he doesn't deserve the title. Rather, I'd just call him a chaos maker. --<choose>

<option>^Input The Resistor^Output</option> <option>Coyote^{Over 450 pages watched NOT including talk pages}</option> <option>The Trickster</option> <option>Acionyx</option> 15:42, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Anarchist? He's a nihilist! Totnesmartin 17:16, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Little green footballs? (and by the way, bush didn't bow. he was getting a medal.)--En attendant Godot_{"«I don't think in any language. I think in images. V.Nabokov»} 15:51, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Little Green Footballs is an American conservative website/blog. The meaning of the name is known only to the guy who runs the site. MDB 16:24, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Sounds like a sexually-transmitted disease to me. DSFARGEG 18:41, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Did TK bother to fix his "16th century" gaffe yet? ħuman 17:24, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Also, I wouldn't call that a "bow". I'd call what came after "a big hug and two manly smoochies" though. ħuman 17:26, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Star Trek

Seriously, what's with all this Ed writing Star Trek articles? They're one sentence stubs. Doesn't he have anything better to do? Like blocking users for pointing out math mistakes? --Coyote 16:54, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

He's an idiot. Of course they are. No. No. --<choose>

<option>^Input The Resistor^Output</option> <option>Coyote^{Over 450 pages watched NOT including talk pages}</option> <option>The Trickster</option> <option>Acionyx</option> 16:57, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Oh. --Coyote 17:50, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

A closet Trekkie? 142.59.186.233 18:17, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Star Trek is liberal, don't forget that. --<choose>

<option>^Input The Resistor^Output</option> <option>Coyote^{Over 450 pages watched NOT including talk pages}</option> <option>The Trickster</option> <option>Acionyx</option> 18:19, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Didn't Kirk have the enterprise kill God in one of the films? DSFARGEG 18:23, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

One more reason it's liberal. . . --<choose>

<option>^Input The Resistor^Output</option> <option>Coyote^{Over 450 pages watched NOT including talk pages}</option> <option>The Trickster</option> <option>Acionyx</option> 18:26, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Let's not forget the first interracial kiss, Spock was born of an inter species marriage and in one episode they said Nazism (which the right tries to call leftist) had it's good points.--Nate River 23:02, 9 April 2009 (EDT)(Kirk fan and closet trekkie)

Ed fails at Trek. I could write better articles in my sleep. --Judge King 16:21, 10, April 2009 (ChTD)

Poor old Jinx

"... I've been looking into Charles Johnson's posts about Obama and against conservatives, but he's gone and blocked me from the entire site. Jinxmchue" How very unchristian! !!! _and marmite 22:01, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Poor old Jinx? Hahahahahaha TK has fucking blocked him for being an RW member! Hahahaha check cp recent changes. Haven't linked because I am hungover and fucked off with Jesus. Ace McWicked^{bitch and moan} 22:20, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Delicious. --Arcan ¡ollǝɥ 22:24, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

I believe that I can take credit for that. See here. The Emperor_{Kneel before Zod!} 22:25, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Oh that's just brilliant, brilliant. Difficult playing surface on that galleywhoop, eh Jinx? DogP 22:30, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

But note: "Jinxmchue ‎(Block, edit, Siteadmin, Upload)" _and marmite 22:35, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Dude.... Terry Koeckritz even nuked his user page... Sure you don't wanna rethink those rights Andy? SirChuckB^{A product of Affirmative Action} 22:48, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Whose, the liberal vandal site members, or his baby, TK? The Emperor_{Kneel before Zod!} 22:52, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Seriously (Good work Emperor BTW), does TK never check things before acting. Silly question - retracted. _and marmite 22:55, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Countdown to Schukky in 3... 2... 1... The Emperor_{Kneel before Zod!} 22:58, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Jinx unblocked himself. RANGE BLOCK TK, RANGE BLOCK!!! He is a member of RW, HE MUST BE PUNISHED! Ace McWicked^{bitch and moan} 22:59, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Does TK have a red telephone to teh fly, so he can get Jinx's rights revoked? The Emperor_{Kneel before Zod!} 23:03, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

It seems da Jinxie has a hot line SirChuckB^{A product of Affirmative Action} 23:08, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Burn. --Arcan ¡ollǝɥ 23:09, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

AH SHIT SON, IT'S ON NOW!!!!

Thee Epic Fail. Nutty Roux 23:15, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

This is hysterical. There's no-one more in tune with teh Assfly than jinx. Fun, fun, fun. _and marmite

Hahaha epic. Wheres Human? He would enjoy this. Ace McWicked^{bitch and moan} 23:18, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

What, did we blow something up? ħuman 23:24, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Ah yes there you are my friend. I knew you couldnt be far. No, nothing blown up however I am nursing a hangover (and nursing a whisky laced coffee) and some stupid bitch last night asked to see my penis in front of my girlfriend before fucking with my I-Pod and demanding I play Walk of Life by Dire Straits instead leaving me alone with The Clash which everyone seemed to enjoy. Ace McWicked^{bitch and moan} 23:30, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

oh, sorry about that Ace. after that "big" comment you made last night, I just wanted to see for myself... Refugee^{talk page} 01:52, 10 April 2009 (EDT)

Anyone who like Dire Straits needs to be burned alive, then drowned, shot, hung, drawn, quartered and finally BANNED. DogP 23:51, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Hey now DogP, a little Sultans of Swing now and again hurt no one. However, Walk of Life? Nope. Ace McWicked^{bitch and moan} 23:57, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Sounds about par for the course. I will be burning shit to hell this weekend while drinking to excess. Sadly, I have no girlfriend whose friend to expose myself to, but I'm still Working for the Clampdown. ħuman 23:48, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

We should hang out. I'll teach you bourbon whiskey and the Carter Family. Cure-alls. Thee Nuttish ^{you are eat fartz} 23:40, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

I Learnded boourbon in Misery, USA. ħuman 23:48, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

(ec) Could prove interesting. Jinx is the genuine article and has never wronged Andy. This should test the strength of Wormtongue's influence. --Arcan ¡ollǝɥ 23:20, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Oh how we smirked. I haven't had so much fun since I went on my nationwide headhunting spree. Teabun moves into the closing battles of his campaign. Jinx is getting more practice at unblocking himself. DogP 23:21, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Loser cries to Mommy. DogP 23:26, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Mommy smacks loser _and marmite 23:56, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Ok this maybe my drunkenness talking but I must say I love TK now. With this he passes bulger (sp since firefox is complaining) as the best Poe at CP.--BoredCPer 23:59, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Andy suspends Jinx's rights, pending "investigation". Coarb 00:03, 10 April 2009 (EDT)

Plus plus plus vote, plus up green arrow twelveteen times! ħuman 00:05, 10 April 2009 (EDT)

Oh man, this and an EdLiveBlog - I knew going to sleep last night was a bad idea.--PsyGremlin_Whut? 00:38, 10 April 2009 (EDT)

You've got to admit, it's nice of TK to amuse us like this. Very considerate of him. I'm tempted to take back some of the nasty things I've said about him! _and marmite 00:50, 10 April 2009 (EDT)

I dunno about that. I was trying to watch Barcelona kick seven shades of shite out of Bayern Munich at the same time. TK could have timed it better as far as I was concerned. DogP 00:56, 10 April 2009 (EDT)

Feetboll? Ugh! _and marmite 01:00, 10 April 2009 (EDT)

Toast, for once, please shut up. Yah, it's only feetbol. But it ain't YEC, is it? It's just some girls kicking balls between each others' leg, with skill, one hopes. ħuman 01:12, 10 April 2009 (EDT)

"girls kicking balls between each others' legs" - a-hah, that'll be the steroid abuse we keep hearing about. --PsyGremlin_Whut? 01:16, 10 April 2009 (EDT)

(unindent) This is amazing and epic. Your powers for evil are truly praiseworthy, Theemperor. I wish I hadn't slept all day and come late to this. Naturally "Pending inquiry" means Andy will do squat about it, and Teak the Knife will permaban him. Oh the shark has pretty teeth, dear, and he shows them pearly whites... --Yossie^{Spring in Fialta} 01:57, 10 April 2009 (EDT)

I really don't understand this. Could someone please explain it for the dimwitted? Is the basic idea that Theemperor prestended to be using IP 67.135.49.112 and TK banned it? I mean surely anyone would realise that 67.135.49.112 is not a genuine address?? If this is the case this really confirms it for me that TK is certainly a parodist and has panned Jinx for fun - at the first excuse. No-one with even the faintest grasp of IP addressing would think 67.135.49.496 was real! Help! Explain! I'm confused! StarFish 07:21, 10 April 2009 (EDT)

What is there to explain? 67.135.49.112 is the proxy that RationalWiki user Jinxmchue used when he parodied Conservapedia. He made quite a lot of fundamental mistake; same account here as at CP, forgot to change his IP when he edited here, forgot to sign in. But what he did well was run a few fake blogs that made him look like he was a genuine conservative, which convinced Andy enough to give him block rights. However now TK is back and reading us every five minutes he was caught out for being a parodist. Bad luck, but I am sure he will do better next time. - User $\scriptstyle (6\sum _{n=1}^{\infty }n^{-2})^{1/2}$ 07:52, 10 April 2009 (EDT)

Gentleman PI. I suspect your answer is at least partly a smoke screen for watching eyes. The bit that needs explaining is how he could have an IP address of 67.135.49.112. As you well know a single octet cannot be greater than 255. The more I read this the more I think I've missed something obvious - that's the bit that needs explaining. Yes I admit I am a bit slow. I was 8 before I could take the stabelizers of my bike. Don't point and laugh. Just explain where I've gone wrong. In simple words. With pictures. StarFish 07:58, 10 April 2009 (EDT)

First, we KNOW that's a real IP address- when you click on it when it's a signature, you are taken to contributions. Second, Jinx most certainly is a conservative. He's not a parodist. If he was, he'd announce it here as soon as he was outed. Third, there is not RW user named Jinxmchue. --<choose>

<option>^Input The Resistor^Output</option> <option>Coyote^{Over 450 pages watched NOT including talk pages}</option> <option>The Trickster</option> <option>Acionyx</option> 13:13, 10 April 2009 (EDT)

Where did you get that IP from? - User $\scriptstyle (6\sum _{n=1}^{\infty }n^{-2})^{1/2}$ 08:05, 10 April 2009 (EDT)

It's irrelevant anyway, Jinx wrote on Ace's talkpage, whining about being blocked, but used his RW username, then went back and changed to an IP. Either way, it wasn't like TK needed much of an excuse to kick off another long time CP editor (and friend of Andy, who repaid that in spades) --PsyGremlin_Whut? 08:11, 10 April 2009 (EDT)

Hey! I like Walk of Life! -Lardashe

It's all over folks, move along now, move along, nothing to see here. Have you no homes to go to? DogP 11:13, 10 April 2009 (EDT)

It's not quite all over, though is it? I see a lack of banhammer in the User Rights Log. How long will it take for Aschlafly to conclude his investigation? Bondurant 11:53, 10 April 2009 (EDT)

I like the way Terry Koeckritz's block-first-ask-never policy is suddenly our fault. And whatever happened to freedom of association? We wait for TK's humble apology and Andy's too, following restoration of rights. (hint: holding your breath = not a good idea) --PsyGremlin_Whut? 12:09, 10 April 2009 (EDT)

I always loved how TK managed to change the rules in front of everybody. We don't block people based on ideology or what they say on other sites like Wikipedia.... But suddenly RW is a known vandal site and anybody who has an account is blocked because they're now a vandal, even if there is no vandal activity whatsoever.... Amazing. The pigs are changing the commandments at night and none of the other animals seem to notice. SirChuckB^{A product of Affirmative Action} 12:23, 10 April 2009 (EDT)

There are no other animals left--just the Pigs.--WJThomas 13:02, 10 April 2009 (EDT)

Excellent. Everything is proceeding exactly according to plan. The Emperor_{Kneel before Zod!} 13:21, 10 April 2009 (EDT)

Conservative

Is he going more insane than normal? First the stuff in WIGO, which has been added to a few more pages, now he seems to think there's an admin called BigWhammy [3]... RyanC 23:47, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

Hey jerk, does "add new section" not read in English for you? Do you no instructions clue read? ħuman 00:07, 10 April 2009 (EDT)

Interesting. Bigwhammy registered less than an hour earlier, but doesn't have any rights yet though. Sock of Ken? Dreaded Walrus 00:02, 10 April 2009 (EDT)

Terry Koeckritz's on a roll - just banhammered Bigwhammy. --PsyGremlin_Whut? 02:46, 10 April 2009 (EDT)

Ken either doesn't understand the real-name rule, or he simply shows how it really works: He unblocks Bigwhammy with the summary "I can personally vouch for this person. please keep person unblocked. Not a vandal". Guess it'll be another case like Robert Turkel and Freedom777. --Sid 07:24, 10 April 2009 (EDT)

Building height WIGO, redux

So, all you illogical liberals who dispute Andy's claim that no buildings are of equal height, I'm calling you out. You know what? Never mind two, I bet you can't even name one building that's of equal height! --Marty 03:57, 10 April 2009 (EDT)

{pedant moment} well of course not. If we're talking about one building, there's nothing to compare it too. --PsyGremlin_Whut? 04:12, 10 April 2009 (EDT)

----------joke----------->

........Psygremlin.......

My favorite part about that stuff is that Andy equates "you can't really claim X is better than Y" to "EVERYTHING IS EQUAL!". If they were discussing cars, it could've been something like:

• Andy: The Nascar car is the best car
• LIBRUL: Well, that really depends on what the track is like. For off-road races for example, rally cars are much better.
• Andy: Ha! You libruls would like to believe that all cars are equal!
• LIBRUL: What?

It's so much like evolution though. Each language evolved to suit it's niche (the society where it's used) the best, and it's nonsense to try to compare languages without niches.. Like the creationists think that evolution means that some species are better than others, without taking in account in what niche that creature evolved. --GTac 04:50, 10 April 2009 (EDT)

In my defence... I'm sorry, I have a cold. --PsyGremlin_Whut? 05:25, 10 April 2009 (EDT)

I guess Andy means that if you measure to the nanometer, no buildings are equal in height, which naturally is true, and also buildings probably differ in height from heat extension from day to day depending on weather. But that isn't a useful usage of either the concepts "height" or "equal". Etc 12:14, 10 April 2009 (EDT)

I think this is a classic example of the Schlafly Overreach. Although his original point is realy realy.... really stupid, his argument is somewhat effective. He said:

“”Indeed, not only is it implausible for all languages to be equal, but such equality is impossible. It is as impossible as claiming that all buildings are of equal height. In fact, none are"

I think that A, this is a great example of Andy's inability to see things as equal, one is always better (which explains his racism, sexism, religion discrimination and about a zillion other issues) and B, he overreaches. His argument was made and was decent, but he had to keep going. And of course, now that it's been said, he has to stand by it, for that is the will of the Schlafly. SirChuckB^{A product of Affirmative Action} 12:50, 10 April 2009 (EDT)