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:That's a classic.  Good luck on your test!  [[User:Corry|Corry]] ([[User talk:Corry|talk]]) 13:06, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
 
:That's a classic.  Good luck on your test!  [[User:Corry|Corry]] ([[User talk:Corry|talk]]) 13:06, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
 
::Oh yeah, forgot about that. Good luck on the exam. Much beer tonight. {{User:Crundy/Sig|}} 13:12, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
 
::Oh yeah, forgot about that. Good luck on the exam. Much beer tonight. {{User:Crundy/Sig|}} 13:12, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
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::Cheers guys. Indeed it's a two hour exam concerning physics, so it should be chock full of "lulz." I'm sure I'll be on at 2-3AM posting some kind of drunken rambling nonsense after a night of drinking with my coursemates about how awesome RW is. <s>unless of course I get laid</s> Not bloody likely. {{User:SuperJosh/Sig|}} 13:14, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

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Pointless poll

Spicy food, yay or nay?

Spice is nice!

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Can't handle heat, must avoid at all costs.

23

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Should Azureality be the site mascot?

Heck yeah!

52

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That thing is so cool, I love it!

3

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Needs more goat

22

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What am I looking at, and whose hairbrained idea was it to make a frickin' Pokémon our mascot?!?

91

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Who is the better rapper?

Tupac Shakur

24

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Biggie Smalls

22

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Both are equally great

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MC Goat

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The ultimate in audiophoolery?

I'm not sure if this outdoes the super-expensive mains leads, but check THIS shit out! Yes, that's right, it's a $500 cat5 cable! Luckily most of the 'reviewers' on Amazon realise this, and most of the reviews are most entertaining. Example

I couldn't believe a cable could make so much difference, so I connected a cable tester to it and saw that it rendered the 0s and 1s perfectly. I'm even getting some 2s and 3s!!! None of my other ethernet cables have ever done that.

DeltaStarSenior SysopSpeciationspeed! 23:55, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

We have a page on Audio woo, perhaps you'd like to add to it. Redchuck.gif ГенгисRationalWiki GOLD member 00:15, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
Would the related purchase suggestion imply that someone has actually bought one of these cables? --ConcernedresidentAsk me about your mother 00:38, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, I remember this sort of thing going around a few years ago and now all the overpriced audio goods on Amazon have absolutely hilarious reviews. Currently, I'm reading about how it stopped global warming and how, if you use them, something comes through from the void. Scarlet A.pngbomination 09:16, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
Not on Amazon, but another audiophile product with hilarious reviews: the Wattgate 381 gold-plated electric socket. (And as long as we're talking about hilarious customer reviews... don't forget the legendary Three-Wolf Moon t-shirt! Even the "other customers suggested these items" list is funny.) Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 22:21, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
I definitely recommend something like Gizmodo's "audiophiles" tag. You will discover things like this box which "takes advantage of the quantum nature of particle interaction" to "affect the circuitry inside your components". Only costs $959! --Sid (talk) 21:05, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Did you notice that there is a "refurbished" cable available for the low cost of $999.99, DeltaStar? The Foxhole Atheist (talk) 22:07, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Rant

So my old man works with this happy-clappy fuckface, who keeps on trying to convert him. Now, he's always willing to debate with Christians over various aspects of their faith - he's an engineer, so take it whence it comes - although he admits that the constant 'you must have faith' replies gets on his nipples. Now, this little wanker has taken to leaving little printed messages in teh pater's office, including the one below. I mean really, how sick, warped and twisted are these people. If that was me, I wouldn't be converted, I'd be pushing the creepy little fundie's face through the wall. (btw, said fundie is also an engineer with 2 degrees, so he has no excuse).

Declaration:
I, <name>, accept and understand that I am going to hell(he spelt it with a small 'h' - can't be a real Xian) with the devil and his demons, because I do accept Jesus Christ as my personal Lord and Saviour. I further declare that I am fully aware of the consequences of my actions and choices. I declare that I am of sound mind and judgment(sic).

— Unsigned, by: Psygremlin / talk / contribs

Reminds me of when the Student's Union's LGBT rep got an email from the Christian Union (who aren't an official, ratified society... <extreme sarcasm>I just can't figure out why</extreme sarcasm>) saying "we are aware of and understand your lifestyle choices and are praying that you don't go to hell". Fuck-nuggets the lot of them. Scarlet A.pngbomination 11:35, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
I would have reported him to his boss if I saw this. It almost borders on harassment. Tetronian you're clueless 14:38, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
There's no almost about it. Nobody has to take that kind of crap at work. ЩєазєюіδWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 15:01, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
Murkins are funny. I have just eaten Toast& stiltontalk 14:47, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
This is exactly why hardline Christian's piss off everyone else - they force their views on everyone else, trying to stop perfectly happy people from doing what makes them happy, whether it be being gay, smoking, drinking, having sex, etc. then don't understand why they get told to fuck off by the rest of the world. SJ Debaser 14:56, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
And the worst thing is that you can't convince this guy that he's wrong to harass people in such a manner. In his mind, he's trying to save your dad from an eternity of God's Sweet Loving WrathTM, and any tactic he can think of is fair game. Corry (talk) 15:07, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
Re the note, wouldn't being "of sound mind and judgment" pretty much guarantee you wouldn't sign it? --Kels (talk) 15:13, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
Is this prick God's notary or something? If he's willing to accept such a signature as being confirmation of your dad's acceptance of eternal damnation then it may actually be worth singing it if the fundie agrees to go away.--ConcernedresidentAsk me about your mother 15:20, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
Shouldn't it read "I do not accept Jesse Christ as my personal lord and saviour"? 84.87.218.188 (talk) 16:47, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
I think I may have very much told one of them to properly fuck off once. Although I can't quite remember if it was a dream or I was hideously drunk. Those sort of things do get confused. Someone being a dick is someone being a dick whether they're black, white, Christian, atheist, D&D player or what-the-fuck-ever and no one should be afraid to tell such people where to stick it. Scarlet A.pngbomination 17:02, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
Is this guy's boss aware of what he's doing? Tetronian you're clueless 17:08, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
I had a similar problem once . I solved it by sticking a small black candle on a fake little skull ( actually a joke ashtray) and leaving iton my desk. The helpful christian would not enter my cubical after that. I was in an area where most people saw it as a joke. I wouldn't try it in areas of the USA. Talk to your boss or company personell office. Hamster (talk) 17:23, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
Mr. Annoying Evangelist should get it through his head that one does not gain converts by putting a bad face on his religion. Mjollnir.svgListenerXTalkerX 21:27, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
Your dad should have left his own note in Mr Annoying's office: "I, <name>, accept and understand that everyone hates me and always will because I am an irritating moron who buillies and harasses his colleagues for not sharing my narrow minded world view". CrundyTalk nerdy to me 13:53, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Pringles

I've just found myself unable to finish a whole tube at one sitting. There's hope for me yet. Totnesmartin (talk) 20:35, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Ugh, I can't even imagine what it would be like eating a whole tube at once. Tetronian you're clueless 20:39, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
I'm terrible, I just sit there eating them even after I've stopped enjoying them. I have to make myself not buy them. Totnesmartin (talk) 20:48, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
I left my wallet at home so had to eat chocolate for breakfast. I fucking hate chocolate. Acei9 20:50, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
Huh, I guess when you pop, you actually can stop. CrundyTalk nerdy to me 20:50, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
Awful joke, Crundy. Just plain awful. SJ Debaser 21:30, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
I've found myself devouring an entire tube of those on more than one occasion, especially with the bacon ranch flavor...mmm. Aboriginal Noise What the hell is that thing? 21:50, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
I've never had that flavor. I prefer plain or salt & onion. Tetronian you're clueless 21:51, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
Nor me. We don't get ranch flavour over here, except in (heave!) Subway. Totnesmartin (talk) 21:54, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
PRINGLES??? Totnesmartin, you might as well resign from BlightyNet immediately. 21:59, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
I have done the decent thing. Totnesmartin (talk) 22:06, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
I am firmly convinced that they put something in Pringles to make them addictive. It's the only food I've had this problem with too. I don't even like them, yet once you start, it's impossible to stop. Refugeetalk page 22:07, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
somebody told me that it's the texture/crunchiness, rather than any substances, that make them addictive, which is an interesting idea at least. Totnesmartin (talk) 22:26, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
KETCHUP 198.164.74.155 (talk) 17:56, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Collection

I am having a lot of fun right now playing with my record collection. I've got some great stuff here that I didn't know I had (and some great stuff that I did know I have). Currently listening to a Dvorak New World recording. Fun! --User:Theautocrat/Sig 22:31, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Records are fun. Most people I know don't own a record player, but I do and it is awesome. Tetronian you're clueless 13:01, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
A friend of mine had a single-playing evening the other night. He made everyone stand up during Louie Louie. Totnesmartin (talk) 15:12, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Did he make them sing along with it? That would have been interesting to hear. Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 20:42, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
I have tons of old electronica from the 1980's through to early 2000's from my old DJ days. Loads of old Detroit techno and I think I have an original pressing of Blue Monday tucked away somewhere. Acei9 20:49, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
How can anyone sit down during Louie Louie??? ħumanUser talk:Human 23:45, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Two broken legs? MDB (talk) 16:29, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
then use crutches, dammit! Totnesmartin (talk) 20:25, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

A pregnant pause

I was talking to my sister who informs me that a friend of hers is pregnant. Now, my sister goes to public high school in a small, rural town. which has drastically went up n rankings over the last decade. As such, there are representatives from all over the world that comes to it. Now, the vice-principal told my sister's friend to please leave the school as to not hurt its reputation, but there is a younger girl more advanced in her pregnancy that the school has not even talked to. My sister believes that this is because her friend has low marks, a child of a teenage pregnancy. Any thoughts?--Thanatos (talk) 02:38, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

I'd ask for where it says in writing with her signature below it that she has to leave if she's pregnant. Seriously. That's a bit fucked up. Scarlet A.pngbomination 02:43, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
some schools do require pregnant students to leave because of the disruption it cancause. Generally they arrange for the student to transfer to a special class where many pregnant students are or to a GED unit and they get their normal high school diploma if they pass. If other students have not been required to leave then she should not be expected to either. Hamster (talk) 04:19, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Worth contacting the ACLU or something along those lines, particularly if they seem to be pushing her out for moral reasons? --ConcernedresidentAsk me about your mother 10:05, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Hamster, see penultimate sentence. Thanatos, get sis's friend to call lawyer/ACLU tomorrow. ħumanUser talk:Human 10:50, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
hence my comment aboutbeing applied equally to all. contact a lawyer Hamster (talk) 16:22, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
ACLU is out of the question, it is a Canadian school. Anyway, the school is just asking her to leave of her own free will. I went to this school too (had the most liberal teacher I have ever had! Guy actually gave out copies of Loose Change) and don't ever recall seeing that in rules supplied in my day planner.--Thanatos (talk) 19:13, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Loose Change? That doesn't make him a liberal, it makes him a loonie. (I agree with Matt Tabbi that if Bush and company really had set up 9/11 they'd've done a better job of implicating Saddam Hussein with it.) --Gulik (talk) 21:29, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
It was more to promote alternative thinking. Also promoted the Japanese economic model over the American one.--Thanatos (talk) 21:50, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Die Hard

They have been playing the Die Hard Series on TV, one every Monday night and I noticed something whilst watching Die Hard 2 this evening. Although I haven't seen Die Hard 4.0, in thefirst 3 all John McClains helpers in the movies are black. The cop and the limo driver in the first, the airport dude in the second and Samuel Jackson in the third. White guys are always the evil crims. Thought it interesting though probably isn't.....I should probably stop smoking this shit. Acei9 09:27, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

That's just awesome movie writing - pair up a white guy with a black guy and you've got a movie. I've only seen Die Hard 3 but pretty soon (probably this weekend) I believe I'm doing a Die Hard marathon. SJ Debaser 11:53, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
The Die Hard series is my guilty pleasure. Totnesmartin (talk) 15:07, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Back to the Future is mine - "ONE POINT TWENTY-ONE GIGAWATTS?!" "WHAT THE HELL IS A GIGAWATT?!" SJ Debaser 18:42, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
The original Die Hard is probably my favorite action movie, but that's because Alan Rickman is just wonderful as the villain. I've long been convinced that they included the scene where he pretty casually murders a Japanese businessman to tell the audience, "hey, this guy is evil", because otherwise, you might want him to win, he's just so much fun. "You're not a terrorist. You're nothing but a common thief!" "No, madam, I am a very uncommon thief."
Unfortunately, the second movie in the series soured me on it and I've not seen the rest. MDB (talk) 12:59, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
the last one "live free or Die Hard " had a slightly difficult plot, but lots of shooting and blowings up, which is all you want really. Theres an evil asian ninja chick. Its worth a look. Hamster (talk) 18:16, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

(un)Intelligent Design

(I thought about logging in as a sock to write this but then thought "what the hell)

Why do arses need wiping post-defecation? Couldn't a better "shut off" system be designed that would leave the exterior clean? As faecal matter (and lack of hand washing) is a prime vector for many infections, wouldn't an "Intelligent Designer" have arranged things differently? I have just eaten Toast& stiltontalk 10:19, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Why hasn't evolution managed something better? Fedhaji (Talk) 10:52, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Hehe, that's why gOD made oak leaves... or was it fig leaves? Seriously (?), in Eden, there were warm springs expressly designed as those backwards toilets you Euro-ey types are so fond of. Oh yeah, bidets. ħumanUser talk:Human 10:53, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Toast, that's one hell of a thread starter! Are you sure I'm not your sock? SJ Debaser 11:54, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Good thing you didn't log in as a sock, it probably would have been reverted. Tetronian you're clueless 13:00, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Nah, she's almost certainly got a well-established sock by now. We all have, haven't we? Totnesmartin (talk) 15:09, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
I have a buttload of socks, but none of them well-established. Dang, I should try doing that. Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 20:37, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

If only gOD had written thou shalt wash thy hands after thou've been things would be all OK. Totnesmartin (talk) 15:10, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

You've got to remember the nature of the Garden of Eden. There was no death or disease. Fecal matter posed no threat whatsoever. It probably didn't even smell bad. — Sincerely, Neveruse / Talk / Block 15:17, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, foul smelling shit is how god punishes unbelievers. Come to think of it, that explains why these fundies seem to think their shit don't stink. -Redbacknot Redneck 15:30, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
All this need-to-wipe, smell, and disease stuff weren't present in the Garden. TheFalldidit. --Edgerunner76Your views are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter 15:41, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Well, if you have a proper diet, you should shit three times a day and never need toilet paper. Supposedly. Scarlet A.pngbomination 15:42, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Someone should get Phil's take on this important question. --Edgerunner76Your views are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter 15:43, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Also, spicy food didn't give you a flameout before the fall. Adam loved Thai food, and this was a little extra punishment by god. Corry (talk) 15:58, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Befor THE FALL everything was vegetarian. Plenty of roughage in the diet. There was also a large expanse of grass, moss covered rocks and such. Animals dont use paper , and they manage quite well. Hamster (talk) 16:17, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
No need for a dog to use paper when it can scuff its butt along the carpet.well, somebody had to say it
Pity the poor aquatic critters that eject waste out the same hole they took it in. Sprocket J Cogswell (talk) 18:03, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
If they liked the taste going in , they can experiance it again on the way out Hamster (talk) 19:17, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Reply to Totnesmartin's point above: there is this passage (Deut 23:12-14) about sanitary disposal of crap, although it doesn't actually cover wiping & washing. Anyway, this issue could be added to the list of mistakes made by God if it's not there already. ЩєазєюіδWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 19:22, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

talking about poor design - who ever thought that it was a good idea to use the same tube to breath air and eat food? Refugeetalk page 23:11, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
And why does in & out breath go through same path? No-one'd design anything that way - it'd be a through flow thing; like gills. I have just eaten Toast& stiltontalk 23:22, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
How can you do auto-erotic asphixiation with a flow through lung? God thought of that design feature. Hamster (talk) 23:34, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Actually, that organisms evolved a way to make urea is extremely important in the evolution from aquatic animals to land animals. Fishes, they just excrete ammonia, which poison us if we didn't convert it to urea. (Has to do with salt balance, too.) Sterile tomfoolery 00:55, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Who said arses need wiping? Bondurant (talk) 12:41, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
Wish I had been designed to be able to forget seeing stuff like that. Sprocket J Cogswell (talk) 17:22, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
No! horrrrid!I have just eaten Toast& stiltontalk 18:40, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Today's xkcd

Is full of win. He does a damn good job of taking on conspiracy theorists. Tetronian you're clueless 19:56, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Conspiracy theories were more fun back before the US was verifiably ruled by a small cabal of evil schemers...who turned out to be complete idiots. Given a choice between the Teabaggers and the Illuminati, I'd happily welcome my Illuminated overlords. --Gulik (talk) 21:31, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

The future is bleak

Moved to Forum:The_future_is_bleak.--Tom Moorefiat justitia 02:30, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmwmwmsssmmmmm ah

This Sprite is delicious. -- =w= 23:20, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

I can't say I've had Sprite in years. I prefer Coke, or just water. Tetronian you're clueless 23:22, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
It goes on forever. MMMMMMMMMMMMsssmmmmmmuuuua -- =w= 23:23, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Sprite? Isn't that like some kind of goblin? ЩєазєюіδWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 23:24, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
No, it's a drink. I reiterate my appreciation of it. -- =w= 23:27, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
But it's ghastly . . . ЩєазєюіδWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 23:29, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
It's like Citizen Kane, with lemons. -- =w= 23:31, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Why drink something that produces no intoxicating high? What a waste of time. Where's the benefit? Acei9 23:33, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Sugar rush > intoxicating high. My sprite is gone now ;__________________; -- =w= 23:46, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
No offense Mei, but I'm willing to bet that Ace's intoxicating high is much more enjoyable than a sugar rush. Tetronian you're clueless 23:51, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
i'm in from a night of literally ten beers (celebrating friend's 18th bday) and i contedn that thes are far more effective then whatever the hell you were drinking at the stat of this thread. SJ Debaser 00:14, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
I contend that they aren't. I have sated my thirst and I can still type. Beat that! -- =w= 01:17, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
a "sating" of over 26 minutes is not bad going :) Hamster (talk) 01:53, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
Kinda thirsy now actually. I think I will drink a can of Sprite. -- =w= 02:00, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
Cherry soda>Cream Soda>Root Beer>Sprite --Thanatos (talk) 02:11, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
Fuck you. --User:Theautocrat/Sig 03:48, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

I kinda gave up on pop (I guess you folks might call it "soda") years ago, only drink it once in a blue moon. But root beer and Dr. Pepper are pretty much better than anything else. Science proves it! --Kels (talk) 04:16, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Cream soda, root beer is fine, I prefer a cola to sprite but sprite is OK, I havent seen cherry soda except cherry coke , and that seems vile ... I do like orange too. Only supposed to have diet though and havent found a diet orange I drink mainly wal-mart diet cola and yes it took some getting used too. Hamster (talk) 04:26, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
Cherry is a bit hard to find. The only ones I know of is either in a 2L generic brand, or ones in a glass bottle I pay $.50 more for the same amount.--Thanatos (talk) 04:34, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

If you really want some refreshment (that's also calorie-free), get a Fresca. — Sincerely, Neveruse / Talk / Block 14:15, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

I say Captain, I canna take any more of Phillip !

Hopefully Phillip will ban me from ask after my last post (a little lecture on lying and ones duty to witness for God) The two faced sophistry, the untruths , it burns Hamster (talk) 01:50, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

I am bowing out myself. Acei9 01:53, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
Um, don't we have a place for this? Tetronian you're clueless 01:57, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
aWWWWK... ħumanUser talk:Human 02:05, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
I think you need to say, "Philip, you are a fucking liar." Then you will be banned. Your post is too circuitous right now. Sterile tomfoolery 03:14, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
Just tell him that any Creationist has lied, anywhere, for any reason. Even if you back it up, that won't be sufficient and Philip will ban you. --Kels (talk) 03:26, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
Just mention that you think Jonathan Sarfati is getting a little heavy these days. Acei9 03:31, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
APOLOGIZE IMMEDIATELY! --Kels (talk) 03:41, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
Ken Ham should probably be reacquainted with a device I like to call "a razor"....Acei9 03:51, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
And through it all, he actually seems to believe that he's reasonable and thoughtful, with the truth on his side. --Kels (talk) 04:14, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
Fuck him. Leave him in the sandpit by himself. CrundyTalk nerdy to me 13:48, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
I think everyone is done. It's just too much. Watching someone lie to themselves is only interesting for so long, then it gets annoying. — Sincerely, Neveruse / Talk / Block 14:08, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
That sucks. I watch aSK mostly for the smart people tearing his delusions to pieces, something I can't see on CP. Dunno where else to really look for that interaction in, well, action. --Kels (talk) 15:12, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
It's kinda boring at the moment. I just am unmotivated to write back any more than a sentence or two. (Although I will note Bradley is peddling the alien book again. Sterile tomfoolery 15:49, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
The problem with aSK is that PJR thinks that if he writes unfeasably long replies to questions then he wins. When pushed to answer specific questions he misuses logical fallacies to try and win the argument which invariably goes round and round in circles. It just gets boring very quickly. CrundyTalk nerdy to me 16:00, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

(UI) Example "argument":

User: Philip, can you explain why <x>?

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User: You're still not answering the question. Why can't you just answer a simple question?

Philip: Why can't you just answer a simple question? Why are you resorting to ad homonium attacks?
You're still not answering the question You're still posting non sequiturs. Try asking a proper question

etc etc ad nauseum. CrundyTalk nerdy to me 16:06, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Agree fully. Acei9 18:48, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Fuck Microsoft Works/Office. I'm going 100% Open Office!!!!

So, I recently got a new computer, and like most Windows-based systems, it came with a trial version of Microsoft Office and a free version of Microsoft Works. Of course, I immediately erased the free trial of Office off my system, as I usually use Open Office. Then, a few days ago, someone requested I re-send them a file in Works format (as their computer can't read the Open Office conversion), so I registered my Works. Sure enough, Microsoft Works is no longer free, it's "free." By that, I mean it's free if you don't mind bullshit pop-up ads for bullshit useless junk (and not just Microsoft ads, either). Needless to say, there's a cute button on the side that says "Get rid of ads" which I click on, and it takes you to Microsoft's webshite to purchase a version of Works "without ads" for $40.00, when Works used to be 100% free. As a result, I erased WOrks and C-cleaned it off. And if anyone wants a text file, I'll either send it via an Open Office coversion, or via raw-text e-mail. I'm done with Microsoft products if I can avoid them (and yes, I run a Linux partition). The Goonie 1 What's this button do? Uh oh.... 05:22, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

You do know that OpenOffice lets you just save things as .doc, and noboby need ever know you're not running MS-Word, right? No need to send as raw-text. And that the latest version will even open doc.x. RationalwikiwikiUndergroundResistor (talk) 05:36, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
Well, if it's a toss up between Works and Open Office, I'd probably go with Open Office. Works isn't that good, Open Office is terrible, but it's better than Works and, as you said, the ad-free kind of free. Office, however, is a serious piece of kit. I mean, people just use it for doing crap and about 95% of the userbase probably only ever use 5% of the features. But there's no way that the latest versions of Open Office even compared to Office 2007 in terms of ability, features and performance. Scarlet A.pngbomination 17:53, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
Well, that's part of the reason I'm going with Open Office. I have no reason to use anything but the word processor on my home computer, so buying Microsoft Office for only the word processor makes no economical sense in my case. Gooniepunk2010 Oi! Oi! Oi! 21:02, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
I've been exclusively on Open Office for a couple of months now. Excel is definitely superior to Calc and MS Word is a little easier to use, but they are close enough. — Sincerely, Neveruse / Talk / Block 21:14, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
I'm sorry. I was too busy enjoying myself on a game I was playing (all of them, as a matter of fact), or utilizing any one of the hundreds of Windows-only programs and applications to listen to your linux-based rant. Oh, and did I mention the superiority of the multitude of Microsoft programs to their Linux counterparts, such as Excel? Young people these days. --User:Theautocrat/Sig 21:20, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
No, I still retain an XP partition, but I have the linux partition for, should I say, "fun." And by fun, I mean surfing porn sites and not getting viruses. Lord of the Goons The official spikey-haired skeptical punk 21:22, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
If I still played computer games, I'd still have a Windows partition. — Sincerely, Neveruse / Talk / Block 21:39, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Gay teen worried

I'd like to share this, which I found very funny. Should be in line with you gentlemen's sense of humour. Etc 06:03, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Already mentioned a few days ago. ЩєазєюіδWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 08:23, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

School dress code

More important than knowledge? For a four year old? (courtesy Alternet) I have just eaten Toast& stiltontalk 09:34, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Gee, they would have loved me in that school. When I started grade seven, my hair was already well past my shoulders and I had a beard - not teenage facial fluff, a beard. And piercings. And steel-toed boots. Sure, we had a dress code, but the only part they ever had a problem with was the boots. My dear old mum called them when they sent me home with a letter about my boots, she told them to get stuffed as the dress code only said "black leather footwear". They actually changed the code because of me to say "Black leather lace-up shoes", but I never stopped wearing my boots - and I never got suspended for it, maybe they were too scared to discipline the 12-year old with a full grown crazy-man beard? -Redbacknot Redneck 10:07, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
They can wear shorts. It beats my high school's dress code, circa 1980-1984, where shorts were prohibited. In a school with air conditioning, in the American South. And the school year started in mid-August. We sweltered.
Oddly, shorts were banned, but mini-skirts were allowed. A year or so after I graduated, three or four male students wore mini-skirts to school, to demonstrate the hypocrisy. They were sent home to change clothes. MDB (talk) 13:07, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
Worringly the Boys: Additional Guidelines at elementary level has the condition that "Mustaches, beards and other facial hair are prohibited." Redchuck.gif ГенгисRationalWiki GOLD member 09:50, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

"The Devil" Responds

Sorry if this was posted before, but "The Devil" has responded to Pat Robertson's comments on Haiti. MDB (talk) 13:19, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Still having problems

Hi, I'm still have vandal bin issues. A screen comes up and says 'you are editing from an IP used by MarcusCicero' and then the block reason 'no'. Is there no way around this? This is interrupting a potential 15,000 members, I hasten to add. EdmundBurke (talk) 14:09, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

This is weak stuff, MC. Wouldn't you prefer to get out of the bin by some feat of intellectual cunning rather than an easily outed falsehood? Nutty Roux100x100 anarchy symbol.svg 14:30, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi there, it has already been stated that I wasn't lying about 15,000 students for one IP address. Why are you so untrusting exactly? Can someone just unvandal bin the 134. IP please? As far as my understanding of these things go, MarcusCicero will still be unable to edit under his own account if that IP is unblocked. And I would thank you to stop referring to me as MarcusCicero, I have already said i was joking. If I must, however, I will explain the joke to you. My response to Nx's post on my talk page is known as 'double bluffing' - I knew that if he had used checkuser then he would have seen that I wasn't a sock of MC. Therefore, i decided to pretent to be MC. Do you see? If I knew he was bluffing, then the joke is perfectly hilarious. Honestly, this is elementary stuff. EdmundBurke (talk) 15:39, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

I'll leave it to the few people with better knowledge of who is who here, though it was interesting to get an email from MC 5 minutes after the above EB post. Nutty Roux100x100 anarchy symbol.svg 15:55, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Hello, I still appear to be having problems. I don't know why this is. Can someone with technical knowledge please look into this? EdmundBurke (talk) 17:08, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi there, good sir. To respond to your question:
No
Sincerely, --User:Theautocrat/Sig 17:23, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
How ironic it is that the most blatant MC sock refuses to help out, even though MC is getting around his vandal binning by using a proxy server with the above user. In short; I am vandal binned for some reason. I don't know why. Why do you refuse to a) take what I say seriously, b) mock me for asking a genuine question? EdmundBurke (talk) 18:52, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
I have removed autoblocks and paroled from the vandal bin all IPs used by MarcusCicero, which presumably includes the university's proxy server. Mjollnir.svgListenerXTalkerX 19:01, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
That makes no sense. Supposedly these two individuals edit from the same IP, but if Nx had really used checkuser he would have somehow known that they're two different people . . . ЩєазєюіδWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 19:41, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
Pour no oil on such troubled waters. Mjollnir.svgListenerXTalkerX 19:42, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
Ummm... everyone here should know my IP by now. Just saying. --User:Theautocrat/Sig 20:48, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
I thought the same thing as the weaseloid. EB, why not email MC and get him to teach you how to use proxies? ħumanUser talk:Human 21:24, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

OK, just let me check. If I don't edit again the next few minutes you'll know I'm stil vandal binned. — Unsigned, by: MarcusCicero / talk / contribs

Liberal CBS is at it again

Well, CBS is showing itself to be a part of the liberal media again.

They wouldn't air ads from moveon.org.

They wouldn't air ads from the United Church of Christ.

They will, however, air ads from Focus on the Fambly.

Gosh darn those liberals! MDB (talk)

Facebook rant

Haven't posted here in a while... <rant>Does anyone else get pissed off with all these frickin' Facebook Pages and groups everyone seems to be joining? I'm in the student age group so I'm right in the thick of all my idiothead friends around the same general age as me joining stupid "Pages" which are just arbitrary statements, and it's starting to get incredibly annoying to look on the recent news list and see "A million of your friends joined the Page I love him/her so bad, but I can't have her! or I can't find my phone charger - oh wait, here it is!" The most annoying ones are the fucking soppy ones about love and other shit, along with the ones which try and be all "I'm-not-afraid-to-speak-my-mind, I'm-an-individual-and-different-from-others." I have thoughts and feelings as well, we all fucking do, but do you need a fucking page to join to try and prove to the world that you're somehow deep and brooding, and by logical extension that you're an attention seeking twat? OK... that's better. Thanks for listening.</rant> SJ Debaser 16:55, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Being beyond that age group, I don't see a lot of those, but my sister's nephew is a Facebook friend of mine, and he joins those groups constantly. I just don't see the point.
Of course, by complaining I don't understand something kids today are doing, I'm one step closer to yelling "get off my lawn!" MDB (talk) 17:00, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
Can't stand social networking sites. They just seem to be big dick competitions. "Ooh, I have 7,000 friends!". I do use Twatter, but only because you can read without having to talk to people or do anything. CrundyTalk nerdy to me 17:01, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
some sites are fine , particularly for people like me (very small town , unable to travel much due to stroke), it allows finding people with similar interests to talk to. I tend to go with chat rooms or forums rather than facebook. Young people seem not to think of consequenses though, posting pictures of your last table dancing escapade during spring break is going to bite your ass when the guy at your job interview has seen it and asks about the ass tattoo :) Hamster (talk) 17:30, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
I'm on it primarily as it's an easy way to share photos, and secondly to talk to people, keep track of things, etc. I can't stand all the worthless groups like that. SJ Debaser 17:41, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
I know one person who joins what seems like at least 30 a day. You can just hide it from the feeds if it annoys you. I've joined plenty of groups, but they're almost all "evolution v creationism" ones. Blush.gif I like the pwnage, sue me. Scarlet A.pngbomination 17:45, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
I take the extreme minimalism approach to Facebook: I have 6 friends, two of whom are the same person and I have joined exactly one group and become a fan of exactly one page. Unfortunately, no-one else does. Cubic evil Hoover! 18:03, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
Use Facebook Lite. No apps or anything. I like it much better.--Tom Moorefiat justitia 18:57, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
On Facebook I never join groups, have no albums (just a big whack of unsorted photos), play no games, install no apps and routinely cull my friends to keep around 100. To be perfectly honest, if I wouldn't say hello to you in the street, why the fuck would I add you on facebook? No offence.*actual quote Acei9 19:12, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
I have a load of Facebook friends who randomly added me years ago and I have no idea who they are. In fact, I'm gonna purge it all now... SJ Debaser 21:40, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Aging is librul deceit!

http://www.hs.fi/fingerpori/1135252223255

"Here is Charles Darwin." "Who is this then?"

"Same man, older." "But he looks completely different! Bald and with a long beard."

"His features have changed over time."

"I'd sure like to see even one transitional form."

Vulpius (talk) 19:17, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Wild VULPIUS appeared!
MEI used PoKeBALL
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It appeared to be caught!
Wild VULPIUS fled!
-- =w= 19:46, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

What

do you call a person who is addicted to cats? --84.221.198.189 (talk) 20:43, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

You mean like this? Corry (talk) 20:45, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
Ailurophile? 20:46, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
CATHOLIC -- =w= 20:48, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
One to Mei. Bow.gif I have just eaten Toast& stiltontalk 20:56, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
[1] -- =w= 20:59, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
Sorry Mei, don't open UTub vids. I have just eaten Toast& stiltontalk 21:03, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
Yello - Oh Yeah. -- =w= 21:06, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
a very fine person indeed. Totnesmartin (talk) 20:57, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
"The wife" CrundyTalk nerdy to me 09:47, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

The Classics

For a bit of retro fun I am dowloading GTA 1. Classic fun. Perhaps I'll add the Quest For Glory series and Crusader - No Regret to my download list. Perhaps even Alley Cat (though it'd get old in about 4 minutes). Acei9 03:40, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Don't forget GTA:London. Fucking hilarious. "No muckin' abaaaht, or you'll get a slap". CrundyTalk nerdy to me 09:49, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
It'd be awesome if they did a modern sandbox version of GTA:London. I'd buy a PS3/Xbox/whatever just to play that. SJ Debaser 12:31, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
As long as they kept the horrific over the top stereotype cockney accents. CrundyTalk nerdy to me 12:45, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Chemistry question

I'm sure several of you have already seen this before, but I just found it (while I should be doing some last-minute cramming for the final exam of my semester in an hour and a half) but this is pretty hilarious. SJ Debaser 12:39, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

That's a classic. Good luck on your test! Corry (talk) 13:06, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
Oh yeah, forgot about that. Good luck on the exam. Much beer tonight. CrundyTalk nerdy to me 13:12, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
Cheers guys. Indeed it's a two hour exam concerning physics, so it should be chock full of "lulz." I'm sure I'll be on at 2-3AM posting some kind of drunken rambling nonsense after a night of drinking with my coursemates about how awesome RW is. unless of course I get laid Not bloody likely. SJ Debaser 13:14, 20 January 2010 (UTC)