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Denying Hell

Yup, Sid. That's what he means!   ^Contribs_Talk 21:35, 6 June 2008 (EDT)

Yegh. There goes my hope that I might have misunderstood it. Thanks for verifying! --Sid 06:52, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

I see The Schlafly has decided to play it coy this time. "Sure it's a sin, and sin is punishable by hell. But I'm not sure God won't change his mind." So Andy, could we apply that to, say, homosexual behaviour or being a Liberal? Those are unforgivable sins in your mind, but maybe God's having a good day and will let them sinners off the hook.

Reminds me of a quote from the old show, "Bless Me Father" (from memory). "Of course I believe hell is a real place. It is a matter of strict church orthodoxy. But only a damned fool would believe there's actually anyone there." --Kels 09:17, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

Totally gratuitous snark on a typo

I love the idea of foot rationing.   ^Contribs_Talk 11:26, 7 June 2008 (EDT) Damn, he's removed it!   ^Contribs_Talk 11:30, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

Is it something reasonable like two feet per person, or do you think it's more like China's "one child" policy : ) Radioactive afikomen ^{Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments.} 15:48, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

Who's there

Is it just me or do there seem to be an excess of Socks &/or trolls on CP @ this moment (20:10, 7 June 2008 their time)   ^Contribs_Talk 20:15, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

Given that about 80% of their editors fall into one or both groups at any given time... --Kels 20:18, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

  ^Contribs_Talk 20:23, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

I'm not there, so there can't be that many. <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!^{Slime on the beach. Don't step on it!} 20:24, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

Sez you! I think you are - I think you're MargeryCampbell or ApGriffith or WillD or ALL THREE!   ^Contribs_Talk 20:30, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

Gotcha. You're Sundance! ... or Morgenstern or RKLuffy88.   ^Contribs_Talk 20:32, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

Much as I appreciate your bigging up of my sockery skills, I haven't been anyone at CP for a couple of days now. And what has Sundance done to recieve such a categorical unmasking? Is it something good?? <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!^{Slime on the beach. Don't step on it!} 20:34, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

Signed up within seconds of my comment above, as did Morgenstern.   ^Contribs_Talk 20:37, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

I guess they must be me after all :D But you don't really think Margery is a sock, do you? <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!^{Slime on the beach. Don't step on it!} 20:41, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

No comment!   ^Contribs_Talk 20:55, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

Sundance is far too active to be me. I think he's just stupid. <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!^{Slime on the beach. Don't step on it!} 20:43, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

Have to agree - he don't feel like you either.   ^Contribs_Talk 20:55, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

Keep feeling up Jellyfish, and people will talk. --Kels 21:03, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

Jellyfish cannot be felt up. We sting. <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!^{Slime on the beach. Don't step on it!} 21:08, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

As a definite old crab, I'm immune to Jelly's stings, my hard carapace protects me.   ^Contribs_Talk 21:31, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

Crabs are just armoured spiders. We jellyfish have our own warrior caste -- the GIANT SQUID. Fear us. <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!^{Slime on the beach. Don't step on it!} 21:37, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

SQUID! They are not your clan Jelly! They are an altogether more modren breed who permit Crabkind to ride upon their backs as we devour the hordes of Jellifishen with our snappity snappity clawkins.   ^Contribs_Talk 21:45, 7 June 2008 (EDT) (am I really going mad, or is it the hour of the night?)(nope- I'm going mad!)

Yes, I am aware that the squid like to entertain your crabbish delusions regarding your species' friendship. It is all a cunning plan foisted on you by the Clownfish -- but we shall not speak of them. Squid are true friends of the jelly nation, and true friends of us alone. Nuts to you. <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!^{Slime on the beach. Don't step on it!} 21:53, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

Nonsense,. Just you wait, some night in the near future you will awaken to the sound of snappity, snappity and know that the KING CRAB is nigh, as is your end Mwuhahahaha (Sinister laugh, exits stage left, pursued by a bear)   ^Contribs_Talk 21:57, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

Pursued by bear? Bears are harmless!

<font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!^{Slime on the beach. Don't step on it!} 22:04, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

The bear to which I refer was the Bard's bear not a mangy, motheaten excuse for a bear like what THAT is.   ^Contribs_Talk 22:11, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

Don't taunt the bears! Dear God, don't taunt the bears! <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!^{Slime on the beach. Don't step on it!} 22:16, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

IN OTHER NEWS

I think CP should make me a sysop, because most of the time I'm the only one who notices when they get vandalised. I mean, for God's sake, people. Wake up! <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!^{Slime on the beach. Don't step on it!} 21:56, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

Didn't you notice the Ronald Reagan one earlier? It's not been rectified yet, I don't think.   ^Contribs_Talk 21:58, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

nope, it's still there!   ^Contribs_Talk 22:01, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

Oh, tell a lie -- looks like Andy's leapt in after all. What a man! <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!^{Slime on the beach. Don't step on it!} 22:00, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

Seaweed does sound a little suspect.   ^Contribs_Talk 22:03, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

Awww, you spoiled the Ronald Reagan wandalism. NightFlare^{Still doesn't have a RWW article.} 22:33, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

Not yet I didn't - it's still there.   ^Contribs_Talk 22:39, 7 June 2008 (EDT) (It wasn't you, Night, Was it? )

Not me, and it already got reverted. NightFlare^{Still doesn't have a RWW article.} 22:49, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

SHUSH Jelly.Over 12 hours now!   ^Contribs_Talk 00:43, 8 June 2008 (EDT) It lasted almost 23 hours! (And was only found by ascident in a who's/whose tussle between Jareddr & CPAdmin1.) I'm upset, I thought they hung on our every word over here and now I find they don't even read us even when we make it pretty obvious.   ^Contribs_Talk 11:43, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

Some of them (but not many, mark you) are smart/paranoid enough not to immediately jump whenever we mention something. Conservative isn't, but if Andy himself happened to notice some vandalism under discussion here he would probably wait for a little while before sorting it out. <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!^{Slime on the beach. Don't step on it!} 15:19, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

MRSA/Gay Plague Crap

Sigh. I've already taken the fight to them in a major way three times over this bollocks. Can someone else please do it this time, else I'll have to barrel in again. And I'm tired of it. DogP 22:50, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

Ken is unreachable. He is utterly unphased by any logic, sources or facts, or even how much of a moron he looks to even a casual observer for ignoring them. I have no doubt he feels this is some sort of great, unassailable masterpiece that will spell the end of homosexuality or advocacy or the gay agenda or something. Mind you, I'm also waiting for him to delete the original article because "we don't need two" or some such. His ego is Just That Big. --Kels 23:03, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

One freaking idiot

the conservative, where to begin!?. He says "Atheism article #4 on Google NZ" but, if you look closer (or at all) it is tagged as Satire by stumbleupon.com. Freaking idiot. Ace McWicked 00:35, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

Huh? I have no stumbleupon... 121.216.227.175 01:51, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

Oh,well Kenseravtive doesnt have it either than because if he did he would see it is tagged as Satire i.e. Bullshit. Ace McWicked 121.73.11.147 02:02, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

Oh and sorry about my poor grammer and spelling, I have been drinking....a wee bit Ace McWicked 02:17, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

I like the tags for Andy's video. Barikada 02:30, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

So would anyone else agree to kenservative being CP's hypeman? Much like Flavor Flav?--TimS 11:24, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

If Flava Flav only danced for his own thing, and didn't want anything to do with Chuck D and the boys, that would fit. Although the Koward leading the S1W is sort of amusing. --Kels 11:38, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

I have little doubt Ken wears a big kitchen clock around his neck, along with the big gold chain with the keys to the closet which he has yet to leave. DogP 12:17, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

I followed a couple Stumbleupon links from Andy's video, and I came across this. *Sigh* If only they had said "Republicans", it really would have been the best one-liner. Radioactive afikomen ^{Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments.} 15:55, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

Andy's Teaching Income

Well, now we got a price for his classes - $250/head. [1] A glance at the youtube video shows about 35 students (counted frame at 0:19). Thats $8750. Gotta say "Damn thats a bit". hats for 1 hour/week?! If only our public school teachers were paid that much for each class they taught each semester (they tend to teach 4 or 5 classes 5 days a week, that would be 20 * 8750 * 2 (semesters per year)... $350,000. Ahh, if only we valued our public school teachers like that. It is amazing they do as well as they do on a tenth of that (or less in many districts). Another comparison UW Madison has $301.35 for one credit (Fall 2007).[2] --Shagie 14:50, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

Well, outta that he's gotta rent the space where he teaches, buy the Cliff's Notes that he's clearly seen teaching out of at one point in the video, probably some sort of insurance against one of the kids getting hurt while he's acting in loco parentis, etc.etc....PFoster 15:07, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

Loco, minus the parentis : ) Radioactive afikomen ^{Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments.} 15:56, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

He also says it includes all supplies. He almost certainly schools them, say, three times a week @ one hour per, and has to prep and grade as well. No matter how much of a tool he is, those "side time" costs can't be denied. So call it $8750 for nine hours a week (one prep/one grading per each class, stat pulled out of Andy's ass, but probably quite reasonable), for what, 16 weeks/term? 9 x 16 = 144 hours; 8750/144 = about $60/hour before expenses. Knock out, say, $50/student in expenses (some things, like texts, can be re-used, and I bet his "rent" at the church is nominal if not free), and you've got 7000/144 ~= $48/hour. Sounds like a lot, but he still has to pay taxes, (pay to keep CP on line?), and stuff. As a bona fide lawyer, both of those are far below what he should be able togross or earn. If he could manage 4 classes he'd gross about 35k a year, 5 is about 43k. One last comment - a class size of 35 students is a poor statistic. Decent public schools (and of course private ones and colleges) strive to average perhaps half that. Still, it's awesome to have an actual "reality based" number from teh asshat! ħuman 17:06, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

Oops, one major error I made in getting his annual income, all that math is for one semester. So double the annual gross figures to 70k or 86k. ħuman 17:08, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

Thats still two to four times as much as a public school teacher. The other bit to factor in is Kettle's comment about being able to see PS more on monday if he took the class. One day, one or two hours.[3] --Shagie 17:21, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

Not stateside it isn't. Our local (as in my school district) average salary is over $50k, and they get nice health coverage on top of that (another 6-10k). Keep in mind that out of his net after expenses, he also has to pay both halves of his FICA, too, another 7.5% not included in the teacher salary. I must say, though, that we have a "good" school system, which equals "expensive". Good point about Kettle's comment, but do we know how many hours? It could be all afternoon. Anyway, we are doing a lot of guessing here, of course. At least we have one hard number, though! ħuman 17:40, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

Doesn't Andy get free medical coverage from the fine medical professionals at the AAPS? Not that I'd trust that lot to treat a hangnail, but you get what you pay for. --Kels 18:19, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

Can't find the dif off the top of my head, but I recall Kettleticket saying that the class meets once a week for maybe 2 hours. Not sure on prep time, but if he teaches the same thing over and over again the prep time for each class is probably minimal. Grading time is the likely the real time-consumer, and I don't know how much he has to do. If it's a few multiple choice tests each semester then that's hardly anything. If he has to grade papers, well, that's a lot more. Whatever the case, he seems to be doing pretty well financially, as I doubt there are many $150 textbooks he provides (are there any textbooks crazy enough for him to rely on? Probably...). I think there's enough here to make his argument that WP is associated with a for-profit venture while CP isn't assertion pretty laughable. Oh, and one more thing, I'm not completely certain, but I think the while Cliff's Notes thing is not true. From the video, whatever book he has looks to big and thick to be Cliff's Notes, and I don't think Cliff does history in any case. Likely it's some crappy homeskool thing with a similar color scheme. DickTurpis 22:50, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

Just Plain Silly

"Warning, Warning - Bias Approaching!" http://www.conservapedia.com/Bias_alert Ace McWicked 17:53, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

Yes, if you didn't already know CONSERVApedia was predicated on bias, reading "Examples of Bias in Wikipedia" would really sound the alarm... Lyra Silvertongue 07:40, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

ZOMG!!11!elevendy!

The video-game one is like, "Meh? Who gives a shit?"
Now, if someone inserted into, say, Abraham Lincoln, his cross-dressing proclivities, then you'd be talking soem serious lulz. Video games cannot suffer from parody as they don't come up high enough on the radar of enough people. Parody only works if the real or parodied thing is well within the minds of the general populous, not just an inside joke to those who in-the-know.
Besides we don't out parody in WIGO! CЯacke® 19:21, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

Yeah, come on -if an obvious parody has been created, just enjoy it, don't share your opinion here. We'll put ourselves out of business if we help them 'fix' all their bogus articles. Not that they could. DogP 19:43, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

Guys, really, stop doing that. Parodies aren't fun if they don't last.

Though I gotta disagree with it being too obscure to be lulzy though, there are even good parodies about things that simply don't exist. NightFlare^{Still doesn't have a RWW article.} 20:01, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

Dog bites Man & Susan's fooled!

Guard dogs R great but CP's guard dog just blocked HoiPolloi because he'd been tracking & reverting a vandal for over 100 edits. Worth of Wigo but I don't know what to put.   ^Contribs_Talk 19:08, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

And he reeturns as User:Betteryouthanme & carries on the good work ONLY TO GET BITTEN AGAIN!   ^Contribs_Talk 19:11, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

This is WIGO gold, but how to phrase it?? Argh! <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!^{Slime on the beach. Don't step on it!} 19:13, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

Not so sure, looking at this I'd say Hoipoloi was doubling up the vandalism. The vandalbots seem to be out in force tonight. Psygremlin_Whut? 19:17, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

Ha! Fooled me once, - FOOLED ME TWICE! Mea Culpa! It was a tag team & I didn't notice - that'll take some work to clean up!   ^Contribs_Talk 19:21, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

Andy's throwing around legal threats again, I see. Psygremlin_Whut? 19:27, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

Linky?   ^Contribs_Talk 19:31, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

This is the best I can offer for now - not sure how to URL individual block logs (hangs head in shame). Psygremlin_Whut? 19:33, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

Not to worry, Got Piccy of Recent Changes.   ^Contribs_Talk 19:34, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

As for isolating individual block entries, you can do this or this. Radioactive afikomen ^{Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments.} 03:20, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

CP Webmaster

Just wondering, does anyone see the top of this page and think of ^{— Unsigned, by: SirChuckB / talk / contribs}

Ooh, that's creepy. Just like the "Decider in Chief"! ħuman 01:43, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

I tried to add him to my "sysops I've been blocked by" collection (see my userpage), but I got zapped by DanH instead. Damnit Dan, I already have you! <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!^{Slime on the beach. Don't step on it!} 01:49, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Nice concept. We should make collectible cards for users to display and trade! ħuman 03:07, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Why does CPWebmaster remind me of that episode of Cheers where Norm is running a business, interior designing or something, and he wanted to get the workmen to work harder without them hating him so he created a fictitious boss. When he wanted to tell them something bad he would go through a door, yell alot and come out and tell them it is not his fault but they all had to workover time or similar. 3.14159 03:10, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Well, to be honest didn't the "Fearless Leader" thing come about as a joke back when most of the original crew here still had accounts at CP? There was a lot more honest joking around at that point. --Kels 06:31, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

I still notice the "donut war" templates on pages there from time to time, and I sigh a little... Uchiha^KATON! 23:11, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Alexa

I have to admit I don't really understand Alexa so if I'm misreading it someone please point me in the right direction. But looking at stats for CP this morning it seems to have taken a nose dive and is in danger of dropping out the top 100,000 at which point (I think) Alexa stops bothering with them. Could someone more informed than me giove a better analysis? RedDog 07:01, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Just checked the actual ranking as of yesterday is 82,818 that's a fairly dramatic fall but it's only one day so I guess we'll have to see how it averages out. Strange it should dive so steeply unless the servers were down or something. Again the huge caveat with this is I don't really know what I'm talking about... RedDog 07:09, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Time for another boycott to push them below 100,000?

And just in case anyone's interested, as CP's been falling RW's been rising. It's like an inverse proportional ratio or something... 121.216.227.175 07:37, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Yeat at the moment CP seems kinda boring now Ken has (apparently) given up on his plans to take over the internet. I hope he does it again soon as that has been the funniest thing I've seen on CP in the short time I've been watching. I would certainly support a boycott if everyone's in. Would be good to nudge thenm back to the margins (not to mention the dark ages). RedDog 07:43, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

As I recall, the last boycott was unfortunately timed to coincide with one of their contests, and so the true effect of the boycott was lost entirely. And we missed out on some potential lulz. Coincidence or confluence? Bondurant 07:54, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Alexa's very revent stats are often wrong and often it looks like it's nosediving (or massively increasing), but it doesn't really do that. Check tomorrow, I'd bet it'll be about constant. Sterile^snore! 11:43, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Alexa monitors website traffic via spyware a toolbar that people visiting sites have installed. If you don't have it installed, you are not being counted. Thats part of the reason that slashdot ranks so low - people who have alexa installed (or even can install, they don't have a linux version) tend not to visit slashdot and those who do visit don't have it installed. --Shagie 12:16, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Maybe whoever set up the pageview-bot turned it off? --Gulik 15:51, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Unless the bot was doing something funky it won't tickle Alexa's traffic counter. Most bots are the form of wget http://something.com/ > /dev/null inside a while loop with a sleep to make sure you don't hit your own network/cpu too hard. Alexa only works through its own toolbar. Unless you install the toolbar on IE or Firefox and somehow make it constantly do a reload of a page Alexa won't even take notice. --Shagie 15:57, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Alexa "rankings" are really sensitive to miner changes in page views. The actual difference between a rank for 80,000 and 40,000 can be as small as 1,000 page views in a day. Alexa has also started using other forms of traffic monitoring other than their toolbar but as always it needs to be taken with a grain of salt.

As far as RW/CP traffic relationships we are highly correlated, the more traffic they get the more we get. The reverse isn't necessarily true though, several times we have had massive spikes in visits for a few weeks due to something non-cp related but that doesn't lead to an increase at CP traffic. tmtoulouse ^irritate 16:03, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Conservapedia and RationalWiki's traffic, March through May.

I beg to differ, Tmtoulouse and 121.216.227.175. I don't get any of that out of this. Radioactive afikomen ^{Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments.} 17:36, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

What exactly are you disagreeing with? The sensitivity to change in the >10,000 page rank? The correlation between RW and CP in traffic? Or traffic spikes in RW not corresponding to spikes at cp? 75.161.33.251 17:38, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Conservapedia and RationalWiki's traffic, March through May.

What do you mean, the traffic spikes don't correspond? In terms of positive/negative trends, we match up quite well. Yah, we won't perfectly align with them. Mostly because we aren't Conservapedia, so of course our graphs won't be the same. But we haven't broken the pattern yet. Not until we can consistently follow different traffic trends. Radioactive afikomen ^{Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments.} 17:48, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Reread my post carefully, I clearly said that we correlated very highly. But that there have been several traffic spikes at RW caused by non-cp related stuff (check out February) that did not lead to corresponding increases in traffic at CP. Basically new people at CP = new people at RW but new people at rw doesnt mean new people at cp. tmtoulouse ^irritate 17:50, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Ah, sorry. I was mainly going off on bunchofnumbers up there. I don't see how s/he could've got "inverse proportion" out of our Alexa rankings. Radioactive afikomen ^{Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments.} 17:56, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Ooh the Irony

Had to chuckle at the irony on CP claiming "Nobody's Safe in Cyber Space" directly above the mugshot plastered (probably without the mugee's permission) on the newspage. --Psygremlin_Whut? 09:48, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

I think mugshots are public domain. Although, I agree with your sentiment. ħuman 15:55, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

No clue about the legal part, but I found it laughable because of CP's own history of stalking sysops. And even when you don't look at the CP/RW history, there are plenty examples where CP's "Use parts of your real name" rule combined with the "Your location and IP information are not private info and may be posted freely" habit for interesting results. --Sid 15:59, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

I find it ironic that this product of atheistic public schooling is from Arab, AL, (pronounced like Ahab). I'm from Alabama, and I doubt that there is a single atheist in Arab. Also, amusingly enough, there are no Arabs.--Greenmango 23:38, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Wanderer

...about to get teh hammah. Can someone burn a sock to invite him/her? PFoster 13:51, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

No need to burn anything, unless he doesn't have mail enabled. But his struggles with Andy about Obama are a true classic (in a sad way). --Sid 13:54, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

I'm somewhat of the view that I don't need to be invited here, seeing as....well, you know? Anyway, while I find this place pretty interesting, I'm still quite intrigued by Conservapedia, and I'd rather not "switch sides" and further contribute to the amusing but fruitless war of wikis. 67.170.155.176 14:42, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Well, it looks like Andy made that decision for you. And Fibbonaci, no less! --Kels 20:17, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

He got Godspeeded, too... ħuman 20:20, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Thank you for the link, I was looking for that. 67.170.155.176 20:26, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Five-Year Plans Blocks

Well, Andy did extend the block by seven minutes... ;)131.111.8.97 16:08, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

DeanS, the Obama "Punishment" image, and radical measures

From the Obama talk page:

“”Note to editor's - if you remove the Image:Punishment.jpg from this article, you will be blocked for one day. --DeanSformerly Crocoite 15:29, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

The result so far?

1)

• 11:22, 9 June 2008 Thaen (Talk | contribs) (Removed Punishment image. Not neutral viewpoint, doesn't add anything to the verbiage on the page.)
• 15:18, 9 June 2008 DeanS (Talk | contribs) blocked "Thaen (contribs)" with an expiry time of 1 day (removed image from Obama article)

2)

• 15:35, 9 June 2008 Aaronp (Talk | contribs) (protest conservative bias)
• 15:44, 9 June 2008 DeanS (Talk | contribs) blocked "Aaronp (contribs)" with an expiry time of 1 day (removed image from Obama article)

3)

• 15:52, 9 June 2008 JamesM (Talk | contribs) (→Positions and Qualifications - Protesting the image and Dean's block threat regarding the removal of said image. The power to block those who disagree doesn't make your edits more encyclopedic.)
• 16:14, 9 June 2008 DeanS (Talk | contribs) blocked "JamesM (contribs)" with an expiry time of 1 day (removed image from Obama article - protest is noted)

And yes, the first guy got a 1-day block even though his edit (and the block) came before the announcement. DeanS does what he does best: Making up "rules" after the fact. --Sid 16:26, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

He's actually making up rule's after the fact, since editor's keep screwing up his article's. --Elkman 17:48, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Apostrophes should be eliminated from language. tmtoulouse ^irritate 17:52, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Filthy heretic! <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!^{Slime on the beach. Don't step on it!} 17:53, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Account creation?

He's right Account creation's not there.   ^Contribs_Talk 16:55, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

They do that from time to time - yesterday or the day before, some guy logged on and created dozens of accounts in a few minutes. Thry replied by putting the shields up.PFoster 17:01, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

You can't create new socks? That's like admiting defeat isn't it? At the current rate of banning there'll be no-one left in a day or two... RedDog 17:24, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

They usually only raise the shields briefly. After all, the log shows that account creation had been open today, but it looks like quite a few accounts had been created in little time, so they raised the shields once again until the evil liberals get bored again. --Sid 17:42, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

See, the shields are down already. --Sid 18:19, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Killing Sprees

What is it about Andy (aside from a severe mental deficiancy) that he cant see that -

Japan - Strict gun control, few killing sprees USA - Loose gun laws, many killing sprees

Ace McWicked 17:29, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

It's not the guns. This took me a long time to figure out, and I'm still sort of stabbing (sorry) at it, but: the USA needs guns and strong laws (laws that go against some of its founding principles of liberty) because, in the Christian fundy-verse, the country has strayed too far from the path of righteousness into wickedness. Japan, for example, might not be Christian, but they have a strong moral code grounded in traditional values - the USA has lost that, so that-and not the guns - is why the shooting sprees, etc....or something like that.PFoster 17:40, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Oh, I totally agree. Japan has an ingrained moral code based on tradition, respect etc etc. I guess what I mean to say is that this japan spree could have been 10 times worse if there were guns involved or, if guns were more available, there may be more sprees. using a gun gives you some mental distance from your actions where as knifes require a bit of wet-work. Ace McWicked 17:45, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

you have to remember that in Andy's world, anytime someone starts killing, every civilion is a trained sniper and the instant something bad happens, the gun symbol is flashed into the sky, Batman style, and the Armed populace of America comes to the aid of those in distress. Seriously though, he thinks just having guns lowers the crime rate, which I've heard from saner people. The trouble is, the whole idea is stupid. To reduce the argument to lowest terms, the best way to eliminate weapon violence is to give everyone a weapon... Amazing SirChuckB^{One of those deceitful Liberals Schlafly warned you about} 20:02, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Yeah, but...wouldn't it be great if it worked? --Kels 20:13, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Conservapedia insights confirmed

As a YEC site it is no surprise that there processes are much like YEC studies.

• Heres the Genesis account, now lets find pyhsical evidence that supports it!

• Obama is anti-solider, now lets find cites that support that.

Idiots. Ace McWicked 19:10, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

TerryH

Is an idiot. <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!^{Slime on the beach. Don't step on it!} 19:58, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Really? You just noticed that... slow on the uptake aren't we? SirChuckB^{One of those deceitful Liberals Schlafly warned you about} 20:03, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Not at all, Mr B. You must have noticed he is being especially moronic recently. Music has consequences, and you'd have to ignore logic to disagree. <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!^{Slime on the beach. Don't step on it!} 20:08, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

teh Asshat is the biggest he is going on about how someone who isnt a professor putting professor on their CV would be met with scorn and refusal to hire. Hmmmmmm never happened to Dawkins, which proves using Andys logic that Dawkins is a professor. Damn I wish I had a sock to point that out! Ace McWicked 203.96.84.33 20:30, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

I dunno, I'm personally fond of his saying the office didn't say that "Senior Lecturer" and "Professor" were equivalent, when they actually say "Senior Lecturers are considered to be members of the Law School faculty and are regarded as professors...". Seriously, the man cannot read. --Kels 20:38, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

I was just actually reading the Obama article, and had an urge to reach my hand into the computer and wring the Administrations's collective neck. The thing is even more "criminal" than Homosexuality. Lyra Silvertongue 20:40, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Hehehe, I get that urge every 3rd or 4th WIGO I follow... ħuman 20:47, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Visions of throttling Andy aside, I am amazed at the forbearance of people who try to deal rationally with him and the others, even though the effort is futile. Some days, the only reasonable response to things like this or this is a period of blank incomprehension, followed by "What the fuck is wrong with you?" --Kels 20:53, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Liberal denial No 4 -- Denying that Andy/Ken/Terry/Ed can decide what's true for themselves. <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!^{Slime on the beach. Don't step on it!} 20:59, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

The proposition that Obama is anti-soldier just boggles my mind. Lyra Silvertongue 21:19, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

The inside of Andy's head is a frightening, bizarre place. --Kels 21:23, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

This campaign is going to bring out the worst of the worst in Andy. You ain't seen nothin' yet. Wait'll Barack starts tearin' it up against the old man. Of course, Andy is wetting his pants at the prospect of an Obama victory. Four years of a target-rich environment.PFoster 21:25, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Undoubtedly -- the whole election is going to be one massive, shameless smear on Obama over at CP. Not that they'll really have any influence on the outcome... <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!^{Slime on the beach. Don't step on it!} 21:30, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Wasn't it brought up before that Andy might be a little jealous of Obama? They did both go to Harvard, etc. but they certainly do have different life-trajectories, huh? --Arcan ¡ollǝɥ 21:31, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Andy is jealous of all attractive liberals. Damn their insolence. <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!^{Slime on the beach. Don't step on it!} 21:34, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Yes, a few dozen times now - the Obama candidacy is certainly a perfect storm of Andy-gravation. ħuman 21:36, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Place Your Bets

Lets start a pool. How long, within 2 hours, until they lock the Barack Obama page?

• Noon (EDT)June 11, 2008.PFoster 21:48, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
• 10:00 (EDT) June 9, 2008. Lyra Silvertongue 23:35, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Well, this depends on the level of vandalism and edit warring. SHahB 21:50, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

I dunno, when does Andy go to bed? --Kels 21:52, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

"No one is criticizing Obama based on his race. But he's not immune from criticism based on his race either. Surely you agree with that.--Aschlafly is an idiot 21:42, 9 June 2008 (EDT)"

The way he said that sounds bad, but I think what he meant was something along the lines of "his race does not give him immunity from criticism" --CPAdmin1 23:02, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Probably. I don't think that quote's as condemning as it looks on first glance, but this whole Obama thing has the undeniable taste of a smear campaign. <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!^{Slime on the beach. Don't step on it!} 23:05, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Good point. The first sentence is still a lie, of course. "Affirmative action president", anyone? ħuman 23:11, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Uh What?

Despite all appearances,Conservapedia has no conservative bias

Ace McWicked 22:23, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

MOUNTAINS HAVE JUST FLOWN INTO SPACE. THE EARTH HAS STOPPED TURNING. Lyra Silvertongue 23:26, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

"Mountains have just flown into space"? That's an excellent idea/image/hallucination! <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!^{Slime on the beach. Don't step on it!} 23:28, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

What, never seen Superman?

This is RIDICULOUS. CONSERVApedia has no conservative bias. Lyra Silvertongue 23:31, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

<impressive voice>Stand back! I know how his "mind" works!</impressive voice> -- it's a "viewpoint", not a bias. Liberal reality has to be reinterpreted to make it fit their expectations, after all. <font=""; face="Comic Sans MS">Jellyfish!^{Slime on the beach. Don't step on it!} 23:35, 9 June 2008 (EDT)