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[edit] Problem

Could you look into this? It seems if there are too many http requests the site fails to load. Disabling gadgets helps, but is obviously not the right solution. I tried ping, and there's no packet loss problem this time (last time this happened it was a crappy net connection dropping packets) -- Nx / talk 11:22, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Is the problem still occurring? Any suggestions on how I can replicate it on my end? tmtoulouse 18:12, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
Yes, although now Recent changes works, I can't load your talk page, even with scripts disabled in the browser. -- Nx / talk 19:35, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
So far I am unable to replicate the problem on my end which makes testing solutions difficult. I will cycle some of the network hardware and see if that improves anything......can the problem be replicated on your end with RWW or RW Beta? tmtoulouse 19:39, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
No, both are fine. I think I know why your talk page doesn't work: there are a lot of images on it. It seems to hang after about 30+ requests . Usually it's around 37. When I disable scripts recent changes works because it goes below that number. RWW and RWbeta work because there's not much stuff there. -- Nx / talk 20:02, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
I will try a few different internet connections I guess to see if I can replicate the problem. But if the problem is not happening to everyone I doubt it is hardware related. tmtoulouse 20:21, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
I've occasionally seen the site drop dead, but I either attribute it to high server load or a dodgy internet connection at my end so I leave it alone for 5-10 minutes and it works fine. Do you want me to let you know if I see it happen again? ArmondikoV...I'll toast your chiffon! 20:35, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

I think it's some kind of internet connection problem, ssh is giving me trouble too, it simply hangs randomly, and RWW is broken too, although the problem is less severe there. -- Nx / talk 10:22, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Is the problem consistent? Or random? tmtoulouse 17:53, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
Yes, it's fairly consistent, whenever I allow scripts in Noscript I can't load Recent changes, it stops after 37 requests (I'm using Firebug's net panel to track page loading). As for ssh, that's more random. -- Nx / talk 18:08, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
If it was a hardware connection issue it should either be happening to everyone, equally, or randomly, right? The problem only seems to be effecting a subset of users, and a subset of browsers even for those users. Are there no errors in the apache logs? I haven't checked. Did you change the number of mysql connections allowed before this happened? tmtoulouse 18:17, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
I've tried three browsers (FF, Opera, Chromium), and they're all affected. I haven't changed anything in mysql yet, but I didn't find any problems there. -- Nx / talk 19:38, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

I have tried 5 different browsers on 6 different machines with 4 different ISPs, I just can't replicate the problem, which means I can't really test it or solutions. Hopefully other people having this problem can provide some information to make the pattern easier to see and a solution found. tmtoulouse 18:36, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

I just experienced a disruption of access to the Wiki; at first the browser (Firefox 3.5 on Fedora) was unable to connect to rationalwiki.com, and then it did connect but hung waiting for the server to respond. Accessing rationalwikiwiki.org was not a problem during this time. After I restarted the browser I was able to access the site again. The only gadget I have enabled is HotCat. ListenerXTalkerX 19:05, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, that was a server reboot and database crash recovery, probably unrelated. tmtoulouse 19:07, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
I've been having problems. Nx seems to have fixed it for Firefix, but Konq. is still playing up for me. See Technical support. CS Miller 19:11, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

I have probs w/ FF 3.5.5, but they usually sort out after a few minutes. Nutty Rouxnever mind 19:18, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

I didn't fix anything. I tried a few things and I thought they worked, but it turns out they didn't. :( -- Nx / talk 19:19, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
Does it hang for you, Nx, regardless of browser? ISP? Does it happen consistently enough that we could play the "how is it now?" game where I make some changes to the network and you see if it improves performance? This distribution of the pattern of problems though just seems to suggest that its not necessarily hardware. tmtoulouse 19:24, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
Regardless of browser, yes, regardless of ISP I can't tell. It happens every time I try to load recent changes with scripts enabled in Firefox. Chrome is a bit more aggressive with caching, so sometimes it works even with scripts, but if I force reload it fails. -- Nx / talk 19:38, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
I work for a multinational with it's head office in Munich. At work I'm supposed to use a Munich based proxy and, from there RW is unreachable or incredibly slow. However I also know of a proxy in the BBC data centres in Maidenhead UK and, when I switched to that proxy it works fine. From my home address, also in the UK using BTInternet, I'm also fine. Oh, and I use FF3.5.5 throughout. Bob Soles 19:36, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Gadgets

Wait, I missed the "gadgets" thing all together, someone point me to a run down of this? tmtoulouse 19:09, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

According to Nx's original message, if you had too many gadgets running it created too many HTTP requests and disabled your connection. ListenerXTalkerX 19:17, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
That, or a lot of images like Trent's talk page before he archived it. -- Nx / talk 19:19, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
I've seen lots of sluggishness recently - although the loading usually succeeds, RW takes longer than other wikis (CP, Awk, BN, WS) to respond when I am having "the troubles". Recent firefox on XP pro, with hotcat enabled and JS edit buttons disabled. ħumanUser talk:Human 19:55, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Gone!

I don't know if you did something or if it just fixed itself, but the problem is gone. -- Nx / talk 08:12, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I think I have an idea of what was happening, but following Koch's postulates I will have to undo what I did to see if the problem reemerges to be sure...but I am tired. tmtoulouse 08:43, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
Yup, works in Konq. for me now. Thanks to all and sundry who fixed it. CS Miller 20:00, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] High server load

You mentioned disabling something to fix the problem above. Is that related, or are we just getting a lot of visitors? -- Nx / talk 22:20, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Nothing I did should effect server load, we are getting a bit of a spike but nothing we havent seen before. Not sure. Will keep an eye out on it. tmtoulouse 23:42, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
Does revision delete on a high-use page affect it much? ħumanUser talk:Human 00:04, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
I don't think that should affect things much. It just flips a bit in the database. I edited Template:Nolicence, so the job queue is full, but that shouldn't cause that high a server load. -- Nx / talk 00:11, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Yay! Ceiling cat is back! :D

Hooray! I just saw that ceiling cat has returned to the log-in warning! :D Thanks to whoever brought him back! Refugeetalk page 23:16, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

[1] -- Nx / talk 23:19, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
ahha! So that's where it is.. I couldn't find out how it had happened. Thanks Nx! I love that cat. Refugeetalk page 23:21, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] merry xmas dude

All the staff at McWicked Co. wish you a merry christmas.

[edit] Hey

Thanks for unborking the site whilst working through an existential crisis. Corry (talk) 18:15, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Cheers. As always, appreciate your tinkering. --ConcernedresidentAsk me about our bassoon 19:40, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

[edit] We done broke it?

We do anything wrong, or is the SNAFU? δiji.broke.it. 06:22, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Back up, takes about 20 to 30 minutes, you can access the wiki if you are lucky, it is better than losing weeks of edits on a server crash. - User = \scriptstyle4\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}(-1)^{n}(2n+1)^{-1} 06:25, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Vandal break issue

It does appear, based on a spam attack this morning, that the vandal brake does not prevent image uploads, nor does it limit the number of image uploads per hour. Any way this could get fixed? Lord of the Goons The official spikey-haired skeptical punk 01:58, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Why do you keep burning my blogspot comments?

I'm just trying to help! Coarb (talk) 05:14, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Honestly? Cause I found an anonymous comment on the blog solely correcting a grammatical issue to be a bit on the insulting side, and I knew burning it would annoy whoever put it up. After that it was merely an act of trolling because you seemed to be taking it way to seriously. What can I say? I am passive aggressive asshole sometimes. tmtoulouse 05:18, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
So Trent has grammar/language issues. Big deal. So do many of our best contributors. The message was clear and the stats interesting. Big fucking deal. ħumanUser talk:Human 05:21, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

It really hurts your feelings when someone points out you made a tiny error, the kind of error everyone makes from time to time? It hurts your feelings so much that you won't even fix the error? That's Schlaflyesque. -- Coarb (talk) 05:29, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

No, he's just bored of your whining. OMG HE SPELED A WERD RONG AND WONT FIKS IT NOW!!!! ħumanUser talk:Human 05:32, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
Do you really live in a world where, when someone corrects some spelling in you writing, you call it whining? My first blog comment said something like "You mean 'dominant', not 'dominate'". If that's whining, what sentence is not whining? Trent, when your journal papers come back corrected, do you throw a hissy fit if any of the corrections are about presentation rather than content?
Yes, it's a small error. But certainly everyone agrees that it is better to be correct than incorrect. -- Coarb (talk) 05:45, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
(EC)Never said it hurt my feelings, I said the comment was insulting. Beyond that watching you crusade about is entertaining. Perspective is a useful cognitive quality. tmtoulouse 05:33, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
It wasn't insulting. Nobody else would have considered it so, only you. Seriously, ask 2 other people if a one line note on a blog post with a spelling correction would seem insulting to them. -- Coarb (talk) 05:45, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Look there is a time and a place to correct spelling and grammar issues. If I have written an article or edited on on the wiki, come in and fix it up if you see errors. I have several times requested copy editing help on papers and abstracts. Then there are times where its nit picky, like say in a talk page comment. Speaking of Schlaflyesque, random unwanted comments about grammar and spelling rings a vague bell. All in all its a silly issue, and we should all move on with our lives. tmtoulouse 05:36, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

The time and place for correcting spelling and grammar errors is "in comments on written documents".
Schlafly says that your point is wrong because you made a spelling error. I said no such thing.
Yes it is a small mistake, but your anxiousness to be wrong for the sake of protecting your fragile ego does not reflect well on this site. -- Coarb (talk) 05:45, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
I think you are spinning yourself up into near histrionics with this and fail to understand my actual view point on this, as well as seeming to have a drastic misunderstanding about my role on this site as a whole. Take a few steps back from this is my suggestion. tmtoulouse 05:50, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
I'm done with the issue. You can be as insulted and as ungrammatical as you want with no more comment from me. Coarb (talk) 05:55, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
Works for me. tmtoulouse 05:56, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi. Your name isn't blue and when I click on it, nothing happens. Please correct this immediately. 99.50.96.218 (talk) 06:28, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
I find your criticism of my signature to be insulting and plan to hide this revision forthwith. tmtoulouse 06:34, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
Coarb and BON, quit criticizing our dear leader over trivial issues. You are lame. ħumanUser talk:Human 06:56, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
Nobody but you would feign offense by my insightful comments. I have had enough of your foul signatures and will log back in no longer help you. 99.50.96.218 (talk) 07:06, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
I hope your happy your fowl insults have finally done. After I am done crying myself to sleep me, and my shattered ego, are taking the ball and going home. tmtoulouse 07:09, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
I am am so sad, to be wrong. Or not. Lovely chickens are tasty! ħumanUser talk:Human 07:17, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Flattr funding?

While I'm not seriously suggesting this as an option, I was wondering what your thoughts are on micropayments. They claim that it could be popular for niche sites, and I think RW counts among the sort of thing that they're thinking of; a site that supplies content (as in, people come to read a few of the articles) but not as many that come, join up and donate via paypal. Anyway, just a thought, I can't imagine it ever covering costs exactly. ArmondikoV...I'll toast your chiffon! 16:21, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Block yourself

I am sorry to say this but you are a disgrace to this magnificent and gracious website. I have discussed you and your behavior with the site administrators and other users, and we demand that you block yourself indefinitely. Thanks in advance, User talk:SHahB 02:06, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

I'll block him for 5 minutes while he's gone doing more interesting stuff. Satisfied? Nutty Rouxnever mind 02:09, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Fixing rewrite rules

I backported the fix for this bug and added the B flag to the rewrite rule as suggested at mediawikiwiki:Manual:Short URL/Ampersand solution#Simple solution for Apache 2.2+ to fix ampersands and pluses in page titles. -- Nx / talk 11:59, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Honorable mention

You've probably seen this already, but you're mentioned in here. Τe†rоиіαn the anti-anti-atheist 19:04, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Citizendium

Still interested in Citizendium? Sometimes during the last six month a bug disappeared which prevented me from gathering their data. But now, there are some pics:

Larry Sanger's prognosis for Citizendium
The reality is somewhere in between his merely double our article count every year and muddle on creating 14 articles a day. I'd say it is something like muddle on creating merely 17 articles a day.
Articles created per day
2010 looks strong. BTW, only articles are included, not their numerous sub-pages.
Edits to articles and talk-pages at Citizendium
Here, all pages (and sub-pages) of the main name-space are included. Most discussed and edited is the article cz:Homeopathy/draft, but the prominence of cz:Life/draft and cz:Chiropractic/draft shows the somewhat unhealthy occupation with fringe medical theories.
active editors
Citizendium has only few regular editors. But they are all experts - nothing like our mob or Conservapedia's flock of parodists - so that's o.K. :-)
editors in Feb 2010
Feb 2010 was dominated by the edits of a few users: as usual H. Berkowitz and D. Mietchen, but also the common editor M. Ireland.
editors in 2009
These three editors had dominated the year 2009, too.
edits vs. account creation in Feb 2010
Most active were those who are at Citizendium from the beginning, only few of those who found it in 2009 contributed last month.
edits vs. account creation in 2009
In 2009, there seem to have been three waves of account creations: in early March, late September and October. An interesting observation is that even newbies with few edits can quickly gain the status of wikieditor.

larronsicut fur in nocte 09:28, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

[edit] I think you'd be interested....

in this. ŠţěŗĭļėBand-aid 03:53, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

I think a lot of people might be. With your kind permission I might be inclined to copypasta the link to the drunkard's communal association. ħumanUser talk:Human 04:25, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
Please, or I will. ŠţěŗĭļėBand-aid 14:07, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
Ed: Ah, beat me to it. I'll get off Trent's talk now! ŠţěŗĭļėBand-aid 14:20, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

[edit] MediaWiki 1.16

MediaWiki 1.16 beta 1 came out a few days ago. I'm going to upgrade RationalBeta so I can port our extensions and customizations. In particular I think I'm going to change the Intercom to use the new preferences system for storing group memberships. -- Nx / talk 12:05, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

On a related note, I've replaced the retarded default search engine with something more useful (it can do searches like this - I hacked the default one to make that work, but the results were usually completely useless). Unfortunately it's not real-time indexed, so I've set up a cron job to update the index daily (in /etc/cron.daily, called lucene-update). Performance-wise it shouldn't have a significant impact, although it does eat up about 200 megs of memory (right now we're at 50-60%; do you have any long-time stats like the bandwidth stats?). And the searcher itself is most likely faster than the default one. The update takes about 2 minutes and doesn't lock the database while getting data, so it's not that bad. We can even move it to the botserver since it mostly runs idle and has more than enough memory and processing power to do this.
Lucene is installed in /home/rational/lucene. If you want to remove it, there's an initscript in /etc/init.d called lucene; first remove it using "sudo update-rc.d lucene remove", then delete it. Delete the cronjob, and remove the lines between "# Lucene search" and "# end Lucene search" from Localsettings. -- Nx / talk 19:23, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Block please

Please indef block the following:

PCHS-NJROTC (talk) 02:31, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

We don't do that. Just don't edit if you don't want to. Plus, who is Dmorris "impersonating"? ħumanUser talk:Human 02:36, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
Impersonating ME and I don't appreciate it. This is getting old. It's a meta wiki issue, and I doubted that anyone here would do anything about it anyway. PCHS-NJROTC (talk) 02:41, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
It's fairly obvious that I am not actually you, you know. Dmorris (talk) 06:34, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
Um, "Dmorris" does not make me think of "PCHS-NJROTC" in the least. There was no previous user here with a name even close to Dmorris. So go shut the fuck up and go fuck yourself. ħumanUser talk:Human 06:47, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
FYI: we do not block people around these parts. Plus, Tmtoulouse is probably busy elsewhere with more important things. Lord Goonie Hooray! I'm helping! 06:37, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
"FYI: we do not block people around these parts." ROFLMAO! Didn't you choke just a little bit in posting that Goon? --TK/MyTalkRW User #45 07:16, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
Okay, we do not permaban anyone around these parts. What are you incinuating there, TK? We do vandal bin, but that's not the same as permabanning. Lord of the Goons The official spikey-haired skeptical punk 07:21, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Well, if you say so, Goon....perhaps if you keep saying that you will also convince others who haven't drank the Kool-Aid too. Otherwise your fellow sysops use blocks, continual ones, dozens of them, to achieve the same goal as a perma-block for anyone you don't "like" (who cannot unblock themselves as you do each other), so why keep up the charade? We've all been over this dozens of times, and I am not looking to start yet another HCM, it just made me spit coffee on my keyboard is all, so peace! --TK/MyTalkRW User #45 07:28, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

You moron. No one or nothing is blocked editing RW.
What part of editing once/half-hour forever versus editing never/hour for forever makes you think I drank some kool-aid. Hell, look at our block log and see for yourself that nobody is permabanned. Sure, we have vandals who can edit once/half-hour, but they can still edit. Lord of the Goons The official spikey-haired skeptical punk 07:32, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

The instant I saw "Dmorris" the very first thing that occurred to me was, "You know that looks a lot like "PCHS-NJROTC". Isn't it obvious?--BobIt's windy! 07:50, 19 March 2010 (UTC)--BobIt's windy! 07:50, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

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