Talk:Innocence of Muslims

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The Four Horsemen[edit]

Sam Harris is a prominent New Atheist and one of the 4 horsemen, see The Four Horsemen; Christopher Hitchens, Richard Dawkins, Daniel Dennett, and Sam Harris in a 2 Hours Discussion About Religion And Faith Culture. Therefore it's reasonable to quote him. Proxima Centauri (talk) 11:28, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Quotes should be included only if they're really good, not just because you happen to think the person who said it is important. Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 11:49, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

We give it too much credit[edit]

I think we give it too much credit by constantly referring to it as though it's a film which actually exists. As far as I can tell the only thing what was ever produced was the 14 minute trailer for the non-existent film. Perhaps we should call it a hoax-film--Bob"I think you'll find it's more complicated than that." 19:19, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

Spokesman for?[edit]

The version I just edited had this: Steve Klein, who has past involvement with hate groups, action against abortion clinics, Mormon temples and mosques and helped train Christian paramilitaries, is acting as a spokesman. Steve Klein & 'Innocence Of Muslims': Film Promoter Remains Outspoken On Islam</ref>


On trying to clean up the "and's" and &ct.'s, I noticed: "...is acting as a spokesman" - anyone know what he is acting as a spokesman for? That would slightly change the sentence structure here. I would like to point out that the sentence could become less-unwieldy with some extra info here. Thanks! Kassorlae (talk) 20:25, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Was there a good reason for taking this out?[edit]

An earlier version had material that was later taken out. Shouldn't both sides of the free speech debate be covered? I restored it. Proxima Centauri (talk) 13:50, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

This page is ridiculous it refers to the depiction of Muhammad and his early followers as 'puerile and bigoted' - When what is the problem with that exactly? What confuses me more is that if you go on the page about the movie Life of Brian it goes on about how hilarious it is etc. Either Islam is a religion that deserves to be made fun of as much as any other or it is somehow exempt of criticism and reversed for special treatment. Question4477 (talk) 12:46, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

I haven't seen the film, we are often too pro Islam though. Christopher (talk) 12:56, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
I still have my doubts that this even exists as a finished product.--Bob"Life is short and (insert adjective)" 17:30, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

I will send 100 euro/pound/dollars[edit]

I will send 100 euro-pound-dollars to anyone who can find and send me a complete copy of this film. (By which I mean a full movie with a actual plot which lasts over an hour without looping through the same dialogue and scenes over and over again.)

Though I don't particularly want to watch it - I just don't believe I will ever need to pay out.

Why? Because I'm convinced the film doesn't actually exist. It's claimed to exist, and what looks like a promotional trailer certainly exists. There are people who claim to have seen it. But the film itself - I don't believe it. It served its purpose by simply claiming to exist. . But if you think I'm wrong, and you can find a copy, then I'll happily pay out to to the first person who can find a full one hour plus example.Bob"Life is short and (insert adjective)" 13:50, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

If anyone is wondering - this challenge still exists.Bob"Life is short and (insert adjective)" 08:57, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
I doubted this existed in 2014. Ten years later nobody seems to be able to show it really exists. Or, for that matter, existed.Bob"Life is short and (insert adjective)" 20:39, 29 February 2024 (UTC)