Talk:Heroin

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Do you know that this is the only page on the Wiki I can't access at uni as it is blocked for promoting drug abuse? Although I can view diff of it. - π 12:21, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Heh, so if I alter the RW menu bar and add the text "Heroin is great! Use heroin", you won't be able to view any of RW at Uni? CrundyTalk nerdy to me
I got hooked on some painkiller, probably morphine (?) in hospital when about 8. I remember telling the nurses I was in pain even though I wasn't because when I said it before they brought me this pretty needle full of happiness. ħumanUser talk:Human 01:26, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
Wow! Huw was a smack addict at the age of 8! CrundyTalk nerdy to me 09:22, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Typos by the ton[edit]

I just got a pile, but some need attention from someone who knows the chemistry. Way too typographically grauniad for silver - David Gerard (talk) 11:07, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Pure heroin in long term[edit]

Wait, so if you take "pure" heroin it doesn't directly hurt your health in the long term (until you blow all your money on it and end up homeless or something)? So hypothetically speaking could a person who doesn't OD or use "bad" needles go through most their life without much damage to their body while addicted to pure heroin, or are there other long-term side-effects we should mention? I know opium addiction used to be pretty common and you could live surprisingly long as an opium addict but I didn't know it was the same for heroin. ClothCoat (talk) 06:25, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

       -Pretty much, yes, except that even using clean needles and unadulterated heroin will still cause veins to collapse if one doesn't rotate injection sites
           (though trust me, we don't).  There are a couple things I've wondered throughout my years of experience--the shallow surface veins all over my arms and
           legs are shot out, and I have the perceived effect of being extremely cold in the morning. Now obviously this could be a plethora of things, from
           confirmation bias to simple false recall of how long it used to take for me to warm up in the morning. Still, if external body temperature is regulated
           by blood flow, and the mechanism of blood flow is shut down closest to the skin, is this not a plausible hypothesis?
        Oh, and secondly, is there any plausibility of an increased risk of colon cancer due to the near-constant constipation? Are constipation and colon cancer
           even related? -Laced 166.137.8.110 (talk) 04:34, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Thinkin bout doing a section on the “opioid epidemic”[edit]

Reckon some time tomorrow I might go and add a section about issues with addiction from opioid overprescription (particularly the medical evidence that long-term opi use is usually ineffective, how the US healthcare/insurance system affects it, how the laws to fix it always end up creating more problems including heroin addiction, media over/under/misrepresentation of the issue, and what experts reckon the potential solutions could be). Does anyone have any problems with this? 🖤 ASELAនិយាយ 🖤 19:15, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

Also it might not be particularly relevant to this wiki in the big picture sense, but I figure it might be a good idea to add harm reduction info and refutations of common (and often dangerous) misconceptions. 🖤 ASELAនិយាយ 🖤 19:23, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
@Penguinsfunnylolhaha That's great! Hope to see the results soon. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario! 22:58, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
Excellent thank you! It’ll probably be a while before I can get much done (have to wait until like, some time in Jan/early Feb before I can read academic articles again) but I’ll start out with what I can, and if anyone knows anywhere to get access resources for free (ideally with more depth/specificity than, say, Erowid) that’d be much appreciated!
Well there's Sci-Hub. But it'll be fine if you can't get anything immediately done. The article's not going anywhere. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario! 20:57, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

There is no glamour[edit]

Probably one of the best scenes from Trainspotting, so much of addiction, and compulsion, is captured in this scene: the vicious cycle of behaviour that one is so painfully aware of, the inexorable drive towards pleasure or stimulation or disinhibition—anything to stymie the banal, the unbearable irresoluble mental and physical tension; the wasted days, months, years—and most importantly, anything to preserve the illusion that one can live in a present in which tomorrow can perpetually wait; the delusion that doing the same-thing will engender different results:

And so she did, I could understand that, to take the pain [of her dead baby] away. So I cooked up, and she got a hit—but only after me. That went without saying … (cue Blur’s “Sing”—the perfect aural compliment)

IMO The superb editing and Irving Welch’s dialogue, far more than the directing and acting, makes Trainspotting the film it is. Again, and again, I could come back to Trainspotting and still be smitten with its music, its characters, and Renton’s lovely sardonic-humour interwreathed throughout. LeucippusSalva veritate 23:52, 13 September 2021 (UTC)