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A point-by-point discussion/refutation of Conservapedia's article on Atheism.
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IntroductionAtheism, as defined by the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy and the Routledge Encyclopedia of Philosophy, is the denial of the existence of God.[2][3] The atheistic worldview has a variety of effects on individuals and society at large which will be elaborated on shortly. In regards to individuals adopting an atheistic worldview, atheism has a number of causal factors that influence its origination in individuals which will be addressed. In addition, critiques of atheism will be offered and some of the historical events relating to atheism will also be covered. |
IntroductionBy framing atheism as "the denial of the existence of God," CP's definition posits the existence of God as being an established fact, putting the onus of proof on the atheist who is denying that which exists. This, of course, conveniently bypasses the need to objectively prove that God exists, something which, to date, no-one has managed to do, or even come close to doing. |
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Types of AtheismThere are different types of atheism, based on different answers to the following questions:
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Atheism and Which God or gods?Since atheism is denial of the existence of God or gods, it is important first to identify in which God and/or gods the atheist denies. In ancient times, for example, Christians were accused of being atheists because of their denial of the pagan gods, even though they believed in the Christian God.[4] Socrates was also accused of atheism, although references to God run throughout his recorded statements. [5] Also, Albert Einstein and Baruch Spinoza professed belief in "God," but they defined "God" as the cosmos as a whole, and without personality. |
Atheism and Which God or gods?Not much to say here that isn't already addressed above, except the passage seems to be very unsure as to whether Einstein and Spinoza were atheists or not, but lumps them in the same category as people who were 'accused' of atheism, even though, according to the article, those people clearly believed in a god. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Atheism and Why do Atheists State They Disbelieve?Atheists claim there are two main reasons for their denial of the existence of God and/or disbelief in God: the conviction that there is positive evidence or argument that God does not exist (Strong atheism which is also sometimes called positive atheism), and their claim that theists bear the burden of proof to show that God exists, that they have failed to do so, and that belief is therefore unwarranted (Weak atheism). |
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Manifestations of AtheismThere are three ways that atheism manifests itself:
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Attempts to Dilute the Definition of AtheismAlthough atheist Charles Bradlaugh in 1876 proposed the idea that atheism does not assert there is no God (by doing so he attempted to dilute the definition of atheism), since 1979 many proponents of atheism have been frequently attempting to dilute the definition of atheism to mean a mere lack of belief there is a God or gods.[7][8] One of the reasons why many proponents of atheism have been attempting to dilute the definition of the term atheism with greater frequency is to shift the burden of proof regarding the existence of God. [7] In the article, Is Atheism Presumptuous?, atheist Jeffery Jay Lowder, a founder of Internet Infidels which is one of the principle websites for atheists, agnostics and skeptics on the internet, states that "I agree (with Copan) that anyone who claims, "God does not exist," must shoulder a burden of proof just as much as anyone who claims, "God exists." [7] In short, the attempt to redefine atheism is merely an attempt to make no assertions so no facts need be offered. [7] The attempt to redefine atheism, however, is not in accordance with the standard definitions of atheism that encyclopedias of philosophy employ which is that atheism is a denial of the existence of God or gods. [2][3][7] |
Attempts to Dilute the Definition of AtheismNote that this appears to contradict the passage that defines the difference between 'strong atheism' and 'weak atheism' (Atheism and Why do Atheists State They Disbelieve?). That makes it clear that 'weak atheism' is that there is no evidence of the existence of God, so belief in God is unwarranted, yet still accepts this as a form of atheism. This passage dismisses that as not really atheism (and, incidentally, fails to say what this state of affairs actually is). This passage also fails to make a coherent argument as to why, exactly, atheists should bear the burden of proving the non-existence of God, but seems to take it as given that a simple lack of evidence for Him existing is not enough to fail to believe in Him. In addition, in the quote attributed to Jeffery Jay Lowder, it fails to spot that he appears to be referring to people who make a positive assertion that God definitely does not exist, rather than people who say that God probably does not exist, as there is zero evidence of Him. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Biblical Statements Regarding AtheismImage:134t.gif The psalmist David wrote: "The fool has said in his heart, 'There is no God.'"The writers of the Bible considered the existence of God to be self-evident and Moses simply wrote: "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." (Genesis 1:1). [9] Accordingly, the psalmist David wrote the following: "The fool has said in his heart, 'There is no God.' They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good." - Psalms 14:1 (KJV) The psalmist David also stated that "The heavens declare the glory of God..." - Psalms 19:1 The Apostle Paul wrote to the Romans that the creation testifies the existence of God, when he wrote the following: "For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse..." - Romans 1:19-20 (NKJV) |
Biblical Statements Regarding AtheismUsing the Bible to criticize atheism is an example of the fallacy of appeal to authority. What is particularly striking is that the authority being appealed to is a book that is by definition irrelevant to atheist. Essentially,the argument here is: "Here's what a god that does not in fact exist has to say about your positing its non-existence." This means that this is about as relevant as the various passages about infidels and unbelievers in the Qu'ran would be to an article on Christianity - interesting, perhaps, but completely irrelevant as to whether or not Christianity is a valid belief system. "The fool saith in his heart, "There is no God"; The wise man says it to the world." | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Tenuousness of Atheism in Prominent AtheistsThe atheism of notable people who claimed to be atheists has had the characteristic of tenuousness in regards to maintaining thoughts in accordance with atheism. For example, Jean-Paul Sartre was one of the leading proponents of atheism of the 20th Century. Yet Jean-Paul Sartre made this candid confession: “ As for me, I don’t see myself as so much dust that has appeared in the world but as a being that was expected, prefigured, called forth. In short, as a being that could, it seems, come only from a creator; and this idea of a creating hand that created me refers me back to God. Naturally this is not a clear, exact idea that I set in motion every time I think of myself. It contradicts many of my other ideas; but it is there, floating vaguely. And when I think of myself I often think rather in this way, for want of being able to think otherwise.[10] ” Charles Darwin wrote in his private notebooks that he was a materialist which is a type of atheist.[11][12] The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy states the following: “ In 1885, the Duke of Argyll recounted a conversation he had had with Charles Darwin the year before Darwin's death: In the course of that conversation I said to Mr. Darwin, with reference to some of his own remarkable works on the Fertilization of Orchids, and upon The Earthworms, and various other observations he made of the wonderful contrivances for certain purposes in nature — I said it was impossible to look at these without seeing that they were the effect and the expression of Mind. I shall never forget Mr. Darwin's answer. He looked at me very hard and said, “Well, that often comes over me with overwhelming force; but at other times,” and he shook his head vaguely, adding, “it seems to go away. ”(Argyll 1885, 244) [13] |
Tenuousness of Atheism in Prominent AtheistsFirst of all, suggesting that notable atheists were insincere or plagued with doubt is quite an odd way of criticising atheism itself, but not exactly surprising, given that throughout the article the author heavily implies that atheism is a childish attack on faith instead of a valid viewpoint. Whatever the purpose of this section, the momentary doubts of well-known atheists in history are completely irrelevant to the arguments behind atheism itself, and if the author's aim was to suggest that atheists do not believe their own opinions, perhaps he should have provided more than two examples. Secondly, the idea that many prominent people have trouble becoming strong atheists, but have no problem accepting God is absurd. God is not a doctrine which one believes blindly, and if one sees the problem in blindly believing this, but has some tenuousness in fully renouncing faith, one is still not accepting it. This attempts to say that "since you're not against us you're with us," and is one of the many conservative methods of promoting a black-and-white dichotomy. This may play into their section below, "Denials that Atheists Exist." A further example of incorrect black-and-white description is this quote from Darwin, that he was a materialist. This can be refuted in one, simple, concise phrase: materialism does not equal atheism. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Claims of the Conditionality and Nonconditionality of AtheismHenry More wrote the following: "In agony or danger, no nature is atheist. The mind that knows not what to fly to, flies to God." Reverend William T. Cummings is famous for stating that "There are no atheists in foxholes". Chaplain F.W. Lawson of the 302d Machine Gun Battalion, who was wounded twice in wartime, stated "I doubt if there is such a thing as an atheist. At least there isn't in a front line trench." On he other hand, the news organization MSNBC featured a story in which atheist veterans claimed that there are atheists in foxholes.[1] |
The Conditionality and Nonconditionality of TheismThere is, in fact, a monument to and organisation of Atheists and Freethinkers in foxholes, and many atheists have cited, amongst other things, the horrors of war as having driven their realisation that a moral God could not exist. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Atheism and CommunismKarl Marx said "Religion is the opium of the people" [2] and "Communism begins from the outset (Owen) with atheism; but atheism is at first far from being communism; indeed, that atheism is still mostly an abstraction." [3] Vladimir Lenin similarly wrote: "A Marxist must be a materialist, i. e., an enemy of religion, but a dialectical materialist, i. e., one who treats the struggle against religion not in an abstract way, not on the basis of remote, purely theoretical, never varying preaching, but in a concrete way, on the basis of the class struggle which is going on in practice and is educating the masses more and better than anything else could."[4] The theory of evolution played a prominent role in regards to atheistic communism. [5] [6] Communists, in particular Stalinists, favored a version of Lamarckism called Lysenkoism developed by Trofim Denisovich Lysenko. [7]. Lysenko was made member of the Supreme Soviet and head of the Institute of Genetics of the Soviet Academy of Sciences. [8] Later Lysenko became President of the All-Union Academy of Agricultural Sciences. [8] Many geneticists were imprisoned and executed for their bourgeois science, and agricultural policies based on Lysenkoism that were adopted under Stalin and Mao caused famines and the death of millions.[7]. The atheism in communist regimes has been and continues to be militant atheism and various acts of repression including the razing of thousands of religious buildings and the killing, imprisoning, and oppression of religious leaders and believers. [9][10][11][12][13][14][15] In regards to atheism, North Korea is a repressive communist state and is officially atheistic. [16] The North Korean government practices brutal repression and atrocities against North Korean Christians. [11][12] China is a communist country that is also officially atheistic. [17] In 1999, the publication Christian Century reported that "China has persecuted religious believers by means of "harassment, prolonged detention, and incarceration in prison or `reform-through-labor' camps and police closure of places of worship." [13] In 2003, owners of Bibles in China were sent to prison camps and 125 Chinese churches were closed.[14] China continues to practice religious oppression today. [15] |
Atheism and CommunismMarx may not have been as negative about religion as some speculate. A somewhat longer quote reads: "Religious suffering is, at one and the same time, the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people."[18] Furthermore some sources translate the final sentence as "an opium for the people". [19] Many theorists regard Communism as a memeplex sharing many features with religion, including prophecy, belief in something greater than oneself, a promised land, individuals to whom the truth has been revealed, heretics, groups of true believers setting fire to other groups of different true believers, adherence to crackpot theories like Lysenkoism rather than real, objective, testable science, and a complete inability to connect to the real world. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Criticism of AtheismArguments Against Atheism and For TheismIn regards to theism vs. atheism, theists often criticize atheism as being contrary to persuasive argument and have a number of arguments against atheism. Arguments for the existence of God include:
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Christian Apologetics Specifically Addressing the Issue of AtheismIn respect to atheism and Christianity, while there have been numerous notable books by Christian apologists addressing the various issues in regards to atheism and Christianity (Creation Science, Bible Archaeology, etc.) there also number of books that have addressed the general issue of atheism in relation to Christianity. A notable book of this type is Dr. Norm Geisler's and Frank Turek's book entitled I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist.[21][22] In addition, two notable works were produced by Ravi Zacharias entitled A Shattered Visage: The Real Face of Atheism and Can Man Live Without God?[23] Also, Josh McDowell and Don Stewart coauthored a work entitled Understanding Secular Religions .[24] Lastly, Alister McGrath wrote a book entitled The Twilight of Atheism.[25] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Atheism and Mass MurderIn respect to atheism and mass murder, Christian apologist Gregory Koukl wrote that "the assertion is that religion has caused most of the killing and bloodshed in the world. There are people who make accusations and assertions that are empirically false. This is one of them."[26] Koukl details the number of people killed in various events involving theism and compares them to the much higher tens of millions of people killed under regimes which advocated atheism.[26] Koukl summarized by stating:
Nobel Prize winner Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn was asked to account for the great tragedies that occurred under the brutal communist regime he and fellow citizens suffered under. Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn stated the following in relation to atheism:
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Atheism and Mass MurderThis section says that arguments linking religion to horrific crimes committed in the name of religion are spurious, but arguments linking atheism to horrible crimes committed in the name of a philosophy that calls itself atheist (see "Atheism and Communism", above) are completely valid. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Atheists in America and CharityIn regards to atheism and uncharitableness, charitable giving by atheists and agnostics in America is significantly less than by theists, according to a study by the Barna Group:
Atheists and agnostics in America generally give significantly less to charity than theists Arthur C. Brooks wrote in Policy Review regarding data collected in the Social Capital Community Benchmark Survey (SCCBS) (data collected by in 2000 by researchers at universities throughout the United States and the Roper Center for Public Opinion Research):
ABC News reported the following in respect to atheism:
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Atheists in America and CharityThis section is problematic in that it does not define "charity" clearly enough. While it must be admitted that a number of religious groups often perform tasks of immense social value, not all donations to church charities are completely altruistic in nature. For example, a donation to a church to put a new roof on their building would count as a charitable donation, as would monies raised to send missionaries to Africa to convert more people to Christianity - both causes are, as far as the church is concerned, completely self-serving and not "charitable" in the same way as money given, say, to support AIDS or breast cancer research. Secondly, this argument assumes that atheists don't give as much cash to charities (if this is in fact the case) because they are atheists, without providing any sort of causal link between the two phenomena. While we're on the subject of correlations between religion and other things, what's the relationship between religion and the likelihood of going to prison? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Atheism and Immoral ViewsIn regards to atheism and morality, the Barna Group also found that those who hold to the worldviews of atheism or agnosticism in America were more likely, than theists in America, to look upon the following behaviors as morally acceptable: illegal drug use; excessive drinking; sexual relationships outside of marriage; abortion; cohabitating with someone of opposite sex outside of marriage; obscene language; gambling; pornography and obscene sexual behavior; and engaging in homosexuality/bisexuality. [30] Dr. William Lane Craig states the following regarding the comments of debater Dr. Kai Nielson who advocates atheism:
Dr. Phil Fernandes states the following regarding atheism and moral relativism:
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Atheism and Immoral ViewsThe alleged immorality of many of the activities listed is debatable - Illegal drug use is illegal by definition, but that doesn't make it immoral, The same with excessive drinking - alcoholism is considered a disease by the medical community. Sexual relationships outside of marriage are not necessarily immoral. Abortion is morally difficult for some, but not for all. Cohabitating with someone of opposite sex outside of marriage is not immoral to many if not most people in this day and age. Obscene language, well, shucks, darn gee willikers, it could be in poor taste sometimes, but that does not make it immoral. Gambling: like at church bingo? Pornography and obscene sexual behavior are left open and undefined, and what counts as sexual immorality for one may be a harmless kink for another as long as it involves consenting adults. Engaging in homosexuality/bisexuality - nothing immoral about that. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Atheism and MiraclesIn regards to atheism and miracles, modern scholars are divided on the issue of whether or not David Hume was an atheist.[33] With that caveat in mind, Hume is well known for arguing that it is always more probable that the testimony of a miracle is false than that the miracle occurred.[34] Christian apologists William Lane Craig, Norman Geisler, C.S. Lewis, JP Holding, and others have shown the inadequacy and unreasonableness of Hume's position regarding miracles. [34]</ref>[35][36][37][38] [39] [40] |
Atheism and MiraclesAtheists don't believe in miracles. The point of this particular section is lost on me, personally. The assertion that disbelief in miracles is absurd because a sophomoric apologist like C. S. Lewis says so is more absurd than the assertion it is trying to refute. The atheist world view, unlike the fundamentalist Christian world view, is built on facts. Science does not accept eyewitness accounts, for good reasons, and miracles are never more than eyewitness accounts. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Atheism and Questions of OriginsSee Also: Atheism and Evolution Creationist scientists state that the first law of thermodynamics and the second law of thermodynamics argue against an eternal universe or a universe created by natural processes and argue for a universe created by God.[41][42][43] A majority of the most prominent and vocal defenders of the evolutionary position which employs methodological naturalism since World War II have had the worldview of atheism.[44][45] Creationist scientists assert that the theory of evolution is an inadequate explanation for the variety of life forms on earth.[46] In addition, the current naturalistic explanations for the origin of life are inadequate. |
Atheism and the question of originsThe assertions that the laws of thermodynamics prevent an evolving universe is patently absurd; growth and development from an embryo to a fully-grown human being comes up against the same difficulties as apply to the increasing complexity of the universe, and no creationist would deny that they have grown since they were in the womb. Several defenders of evolution, such as Francis Collins, are devout Christians, who obviously don't count because they're not the right type. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Reasonable Explanations for AtheismFor More Information Please See: Causes of Atheism There are a number of reasonable explanations for atheism:
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Atheism and the Existence of EvilFor More Information Please See: Atheism and the Problem of Evil Those who advocate atheism commonly state that the existence of evil is a problem for theism which holds to a good and powerful God.[61] Theodicy is the branch of study in theology and philosophy that defends the goodness of God despite the existence of evil.[62] In traditional Christianity and Judaism the book of Job is used to explain the existence of evil.[63] In recent times Christian apologists often cite Alvin Plantinga's free will defense in regards to the existence of evil. [64][65]The work of St. Augustine is also cited in regards to theodicy. [66] Dr. Ron Rhodes of Reasoning from the Scriptures Ministry states regarding this issue regarding the existence of evil in relation to atheism:
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Atheism and the Foundation of Modern ScienceThe birth of modern science occurred in Christianized Europe.[68] Sociologist Rodney Stark investigated the individuals who made the most significant scientific contributions between 1543 and 1680 A.D., the time of the Scientific Revolution. In Stark's list of 52 top scientific contributors,[69] only one (Edmund Halley) was a skeptic and another (Paracelsus) was a pantheist. The other 50 were Christians, 30 of whom could be characterized as being devout Christians.[69] Sir Francis Bacon, sometimes referred to as "the Father of Modern Science", wrote in his essay entitled Of Atheism the following: "I had rather believe all the fables in the Legend, and the Talmud, and the Alcoran, than that this universal frame is without a mind."[70] In False conflict: Christianity is not only compatible with Science--it created it Stark writes in relation to atheism the following:
Dr. Charles Thaxton states in relation to atheism the following:
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Atheism and DebateAlthough atheists claim there are reasonable arguments for atheism, the quality of atheist debate has been quite poor from the proponents of atheism. Below are some examples which demonstrate the unreasonableness of atheist debaters. Doug JessephIn October of 1997, atheist Jeffrey Jay Lowder, a founder of Internet Infidels, stated that he believed that in regards to atheism "the most impressive debater to date" was Doug Jesseph.[73] Yet Doug Jesseph claimed in a debate with William Lane Craig in 1996 that the origin of life had a detailed atheistic explanation(s).[74] In 1996, John Horgan wrote the following regarding what the highly respected origin of life researcher Stanley Miller believed to the case regarding naturalistic explanations of the origin of life: "Miller seemed unimpressed with any of the current proposals on the origin of life, referring to them as “nonsense” or “paper chemistry.”"[75] In addition, in 1996, John Horgan wrote the following in Scientific American: "The origin of life is a science writer's dream. It abounds with exotic scientists and exotic theories, which are never entirely abandoned or accepted, but merely go in and out of fashion."[76] |
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Gordon SteinDr. Greg Bahnsen became known as the man atheists fear most" due to Michael Martin's cancellation of their scheduled debate. In 1985, Christian apologist Dr. Greg Bahnsen and prominent proponent of atheism Gordon Stein had a debate at the University of California, Irvine regarding the positions of atheism and theism. John Frame wrote regarding the debate in which Dr. Bahnsen used the transcendental argument for the existence of God that "In the end, Stein walked and talked like a broken man."[77] The Greg Bahnsen-Gordon Stein debate was recorded and transcribed and was dubbed "The Great Debate".[78][79] |
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Greg Bahnsen and Michael MartinDr. Greg Bahnsen became known as the "man atheists fear most".[80] This is because Harvard-educated Dr. Michael Martin was scheduled to debate Bahnsen but pulled out of the debate at the "eleventh hour". A press release at the time said that Dr. Martin offered ruses on why he pulled out and didn't want the scheduled debate recorded but the real reason was that "...Michael Martin is afraid that he will be publicly humiliated just as his friend and fellow atheist, Dr. Gordon Stein, was..."[81] Martin later released his transcendental argument for the non-existence of God (TANG) in 1996 which was rebutted by Christian apologists.[82] |
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Creation Scientists tend to win creation-evolution debatesAs noted earlier, a majority of the most prominent and vocal defenders of the naturalistic evolutionary position since World War II have been holders of the world view of atheism.[83][84] Creation scientists tend to win the Creation-Evolution debates and many debates have been held since the 1970's particularly in the United States. |
Creation Scientists tend to "win" Creation-Evolution debatesGee, well in that case they must be right. Ever heard of the Gish Gallop? Debates are not where science is settled, because human factors disturb the results. Science is settled in written fora, where nothing matters but the evidence. Even so, Cdesign Proponentsists tend to lose debates when the evolutionist keeps their head and calmly refutes them point-by-point, an admittedly gargantuan task. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Notable Incidences of Atheists Converting to TheismIn respect to the issue of ex-atheists there have been some notable incidences of atheists converting to theism. Lee Strobel converted from atheism to Christianity and then became a Christian apologist. [85] Before investigating the claims of Christianity Strobel had obtained a undergraduate degree in journalism and also obtained a law degree from Master of Studies in Law degree from Yale Law School. Strobel was an award-winning legal editor of the Chicago Tribune also won Illinois’ top honors for investigative reporting (which he shared with a team he led) and public service journalism from United Press International.[85] After a nearly a two year investigation of the evidence for Christianity Strobel became a Christian.[86] C.S. Lewis abandoned his atheism and became a Christian and he was very much influenced by the writings of George MacDonald and G. K. Chesterton.[87] In Surprised by Joy Lewis says: "In reading Chesterton, as in reading MacDonald, I did not know what I was letting myself in for. A young man who wishes to remain a sound Atheist cannot be too careful of his reading. God is, if I may say it, very unscrupulous."[88] British philosopher Anthony Flew abandoned atheism and became an deist after as a result of the intelligent design issue. According to the news organization MSNBC, Flew became a deist because he believed a super-intelligence was the only good explanation for the origin of life and the complexity of nature.[89] In 2006, Flew and 12 prominent academics urged that intelligent design be taught in British government schools.[90] The work of ex-atheist and psychologist Dr. Paul Vitz is often cited in regards to atheism. As alluded to earlier, Dr. Vitz wrote the work Faith of the Fatherless. |
Conversions from Atheism to TheismWe could do a whole article on just this, but it would prove nothing. Most atheists have in fact been raised as theists, and then realised they don't believe in God and "converted". Instead, examine the four examples given. Only one scientist, a psychologist; the rest are two philosophers and a lawyer. Four examples does not an argument make. On the other hand... (examples, please? More than four would be great. Stick to scientists and theologians!) In any case, the argument is not whether people can convert, but what their reasons for converting are. We believe the reasons for converting from Theism to Atheism are more compelling than vice versa. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Atheism and its Decline as a Theoretical PositionAccording to Munich theologian Wolfhart Pannenberg "Atheism as a theoretical position is in decline worldwide."[91] Oxford scholar Alister McGrath agrees and has stated that atheism's "future seems increasingly to lie in the private beliefs of individuals rather than in the great public domain it once regarded as its habitat."[91] Views on AtheistsIn regards to various views on atheists, research in the American Sociological Review finds that among several groups listed, those who hold the position of atheism are the group that Americans relate least to in terms of their vision of American society and are the group most likely to be mentioned as one that Americans would not want to have marry into their family. [92]
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Atheism as a way of lifeIt is perfectly correct that Atheism is in decline as a theoretical position, as it becomes instead a normal lifestyle choice, perfectly valid and accepted by people without having to be defended. It is, after all, the default position. Views on AtheistsExamined closely, this is quite shocking. Atheists, a group of mostly peaceful, well-educated people, are more hated than any religious group, including one that has killed hundreds of thousands if not millions of people, having many of them tortured or burned to death, and has dragged back human progress by hundreds of years? I'm not talking about Islam, either. Nor Teh Gheys. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Brights MovementRichard Dawkins]] is listed as an enthusiastic bright by the Brights Movement website. The Brights Movement was started in 2003 by Paul Geisert and Mynga Futrell in 2003 in order to assist in the advocacy of a naturalistic worldview.[93][94] The Brights movement had a media campaign and was announced in Wired magazine (by evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins), Free Inquiry (by Richard Dawkins), and on the New York Times op-ed page (by the philosopher and atheist Daniel Dennett).[93] However, according to a 2004 Skeptical Enquirer article the movement the "Brights label" reinforced a longstanding stereotype. Atheists already have a terrible rap for being coldhearted rationalists who attend Mensa gatherings and dismiss religious believers as simple-minded fools."[95] In October of 2003 in a article in the Guardian Dawkins associated being a "bright" with being an intellectual.[96]
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New AtheismDissent Magazine stated the following regarding the "New Atheism":
Dr. Alfred Mohler Jr. describes some of the key attributes of the "New Atheism":
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New AtheismYes, some Atheists think that a philosophy which results in burning and torturing innocent people to death is just a little bit evil. Just a little. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Impact of the New AtheismThe "New Atheism" has not had much of an impact in terms of gaining new adherents to atheism. In a March 10, 2008 USA Today article Stephen Prothero stated the following regarding the impact of the "New Atheism":
A prime reason for the ineffectiveness of the "New Atheism" is the shallowness of its material. For example, even atheist philosopher Michael Ruse stated that that Richard Dawkins' book The God Delusion made him "embarrassed to be an atheist".[101] The "New Atheism" largely has a unfavorable view outside the United States as well. The liberal leaning British publication the Guardian stated the following regarding the "New Atheism":
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Atheism and the BibleIn respect to atheism and the Bible, atheists and skeptics have been disputing the reliability of the Bible for centuries. Christian apologist JP Holding rightly states that Bible exegesis and Bible exposition is a multi-disciplinary pursuit and often critics of the Bible have not done a fraction of the due diligence required when making a allegation regarding the Bible. JP Holding states the following:
Christian theologian and apologist Bernard Ramm wrote regarding the Bible and its critics the following in his often cited work Protestant Christian Evidences:
In regards to the proponents of atheism, Christian apologists have responded to their various claims that the Bible contains errors or contradictions.[105][106][107][108] |
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Internet Infidels and other Atheist WebsitesAs mentioned previously Internet Infidels (also known as the Secular Web) is one of the principle websites for those who advocate atheism, agnostics and Philosophical skeptics on the internet. Christian apologist JP Holding has stated regarding the website Internet Infidels the following: "The Secular Web has a few intelligent people, but overall has long been a haven for every skeptical know-it-all to pronounce judgments upon matters outside of their expertise."[109] Although JP Holding has written rebuttals of the more well known members of the skeptical community such as David Hume[110], Friedrich Nietzsche[111] and G.A. Wells[112][113], Holding has also written rebuttals of lesser well known members of the secular community who publish and/or are featured on Internet Infidels such as:
Targeting of Young People by Atheists on the InternetIn 2007 WorldNetDaily feature a column by Chuck Norris which stated the following regarding atheism and the internet:
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Atheism in AcademiaIn 2001 philosopher Quentin Smith stated the following in respect to atheism:
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Denials That Atheists ExistSome have asserted that atheists do not exist. In regards to a biblical statement on atheism Sir Francis Bacon stated in his essay Of Atheism the following regarding atheism:
In addition, philosophers and Christian apologists Dr. Cornelius Van Til and Dr. Greg Bahnsen argued there are no atheists and that atheists are actively suppressing their belief and knowledge of God and enigmatically engage in self-deception.[124] The English poet Edward Young wrote in his famous work Night Thoughts that "By night, an atheist half-believes a God."[125] The Christian Cyclopedia states regarding the atheism the following:
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Refute!The first thing you should notice is that no actual evidence is presented outside their own religious views (that didn't even come from their holy book). Sir Francis' quote is another case of severely reinterpreting the Bible to suit one's views, in this case the twisting comes from two simple words that likely would be used interchangeably in this context by someone without an agenda to push. Though its probably better for his case as the existence of atheists (and there's plenty evidence of it) would under his interpretation imply the fallability of the Bible.
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Atheist population as a percentage of various countries' populationsFor more information please see: Atheist Population In regards to the atheist population as a percentage of various countries' populations, specific research on atheists conducted in 2006 suggests that the true proportion of atheists is 4% in the United States, 17% in Great Britain and 32% in France. A survey published in the 2005 Encyclopedia Britannica stated that 2.3% of the world's population consists of individuals who profess "atheism, skepticism, disbelief, or irreligion, including the militantly antireligious."[127] In regards to the 2.3% figure just mentioned, the 2005 survey cited by Encyclopedia Britannica survey did not include Buddhist in regards to the 2.3% figure and Buddhism can be theistic or atheistic.[128][129] |
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Other Well Known Proponents of AtheismProminent holders of the position of atheism and atheist schools of thought have been or include:
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Atheism QuotesFor more atheism quotes please see: Atheism Quotes
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