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RA: you know not of what you speak. The guy (TK) has no moral scruples - at all. I could throw him a hell of a lot further than I'd trust him. He's (allegedly) threatened to contact employers in the past. He's des[icable. (apologies for commenting here - my connection's too slow & my edit limit too small for the section) [BTW - there's no great responsibility with sysoppery - just helps to revert vandalism] [[User:SusanG|<font color = "0022ff">Susan</font>]][[User_talk:SusanG|<font color = "775500"><sup>''Purrrrrrr''</sup></font>]] 14:56, 14 January 2008 (EST)
 
RA: you know not of what you speak. The guy (TK) has no moral scruples - at all. I could throw him a hell of a lot further than I'd trust him. He's (allegedly) threatened to contact employers in the past. He's des[icable. (apologies for commenting here - my connection's too slow & my edit limit too small for the section) [BTW - there's no great responsibility with sysoppery - just helps to revert vandalism] [[User:SusanG|<font color = "0022ff">Susan</font>]][[User_talk:SusanG|<font color = "775500"><sup>''Purrrrrrr''</sup></font>]] 14:56, 14 January 2008 (EST)
 
::I know I have no experience with Conservapedia.  But I believe it is best to assume delusion over malevolence.  And from my own experience with him, I find that if (a)he doesn't know you and (b)he isn't provoked, TK is generally quite cordial.  Besides, a large part of his alleged immorality was probably due to the environment of Conservapedia.  Not everyone who goes there is going to avoid being corrupted by the toxic atmosphere of the site, Susan.  --{{User:Radioactive afikomen/sig}} 15:04, 14 January 2008 (EST)
 
::I know I have no experience with Conservapedia.  But I believe it is best to assume delusion over malevolence.  And from my own experience with him, I find that if (a)he doesn't know you and (b)he isn't provoked, TK is generally quite cordial.  Besides, a large part of his alleged immorality was probably due to the environment of Conservapedia.  Not everyone who goes there is going to avoid being corrupted by the toxic atmosphere of the site, Susan.  --{{User:Radioactive afikomen/sig}} 15:04, 14 January 2008 (EST)
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:::RA, I think Susan knows of what she speaks. TK's history goes back before RW and CP at least to a site called "[http://www.hotornot.com Hot or Not]" where TK had been a moderator.  When RW first started they were contacted by another former moderator of HoN who warned them that involvement with TK would lead to misery as he had virtually destroyed our moderator community at HoN because he had fomented in-fighting. TK became a sysop shortly after joining CP and established his own brand of authoritarianism with many editors being kicked out for the lamest of excuses. The "toxic environment" at CP really only started to develop after TK's elevation (I would hesitate to make a link between these events). After a group of "liberal" editors established RationalWiki 1.0 they were joined by TK who on one hand proceeded to verbally abuse and insult everyone in public but would communicate with individuals in private e-mails and IM claiming that he wanted to undermine CP and be very friendly, but he tended to play each one off against the other and sometimes added his own vandalism and plagiarism to CP.  I just wonder what integrity TK has with all his manipulation? Probably he is not concerned about the values of the sites he frequents but just gets a kick out of pulling people's strings (as he does repeatedly with AmesG). He has also repeatedly claimed that people are who they are not, whether through malice or willful ignorance I don't know.  However, claims were made on this site in the middle of 2007 that Fox was an RW sock, in an attempt to undermine his position at CP. And now TK is repeating the claims with the added bonus of incriminating BrainCo as well. These two may or may not be RW socks, I have no knowledge but what does it say of TK that he feels the need to say so either here or as Kbolton on CP (I have pretty strong evidence that TK is Kbolton but cannot reveal it without compromising others). So who is he trying to destroy - honest editors at CP , editors at RW or both?  He probably doesn't really care, TK has flitted between RW and CP attempting to stir up discontent on both sites. He has also operated his own socks on both CP and RW. Your experiences with TK may have been amicable but I have seen several threads where he has suddenly turned nasty, you may think that threats of physical violence on internet sites or private emial are hyperbole but who can tell what someone might actually do in reality?  I am sure that TK is pleasant to you and other recent editors here but he used similar tactics to disrupt HoN. His recent short-lived return to CP saw him trying to throw his weight around and he was leniently blocked by Fox for abusing other editors, something that would have earned a 5-year+ ban if he had been the giver rather than the receiver.
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What I can congratulate TK for from a RationalWiki point of view is that sowing seeds of more doubt into Aschlafly's mind about who can or cannot be trusted only serves to hasten the demize of CP. Only one one new sysop (AS jr.) in the last five(?) months despite several departures shows that Andy doesn't know who to trust. PJR and DanH are obviously finding it hard going, SharonS has other things on her mind nowadays, DeborahB has been notably invisible and many other sysops are just dwindling away so trying to sabotage a revitalized Fox was a good move. Of the longterm nonsysop editors at CP Iduan is going, HelpJazz is still fighting for nightedit rights, BrianCo might as well pack it in as well as he will have been well and truly discredited, while Tash & Learntogether are not going anywhere either. Once that little group pack up and go home then Andy is going to be running CP with just Bethany and Karajou as his aides de camp and TK will be able to claim the credit.  [[User:Poison Ivy|Poison Ivy]] 17:21, 14 January 2008 (EST)

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New logo large.png Welcome to RationalWiki, Stabby the Misanthrope!

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Tell us how you found RationalWiki here!

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To quote Human, Welcome to the Dollhouse. Eye See You 02:45, 4 August 2007 (CDT)

Hello and welcome.--Bob_M (talk) 04:03, 4 August 2007 (CDT)
As quoted, thank you, and welcome. humanbe in 00:12, 5 August 2007 (CDT)
New logo large.png Welcome to RationalWiki, Stabby the Misanthrope!

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Tell us how you found RationalWiki here!

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You come well-credentialled. I hope you find a way to join in sometime. humanbe in 00:22, 5 August 2007 (CDT)

Jewish Template

If you really want to change it back, by all means go ahead. But I think some would find it offensive, don't you? Bohdan
Wow, OK, overkill on the welcome template! What would be offensive, though, my dear Bohdan? humanbe in 00:27, 5 August 2007 (CDT)
The Jewish userbox. Something about Jews controlling RW. Bohdan 00:28, 5 August 2007 (CDT)

I suppose you're right. That sort of thing is more appropriate for Uncyclopedia, not necessarily here. --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 00:30, 5 August 2007 (CDT)

Incessant "welcome" vandalism

PS, you are welcome, sorry you got caught in the silly Saturday Night crossfire of old friends. Grab a goat when you have the time, and we very much welcome someone as wiki-savvy as yourself. Enjoy. humanbe in 01:18, 5 August 2007 (CDT)

Identity

We've nothing against Jews here, but you aren't Fox or Lulz back with a new identity are you? Genghis Khant 02:50, 5 August 2007 (CDT)

No. And I resent that accusation, having been around for a while on other wikis under this same username (you'll find links to my userpages on other wikis on the userpage I have here). --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 03:03, 5 August 2007 (CDT)

Great, now i had to find an intertube just to deal with this. What's wrong with a Jewy template??11!! I have one. Many xtians have xtian templates. I hope my Ukrainian friend was kidding. User:PalMD Oh, and BTW, welcome!!! Love the name.

Yes, I've been wondering about this as well. Maybe I've missed something, but what is the alleged problem with the template?--Bob_M (talk) 07:11, 5 August 2007 (CDT)
It's Jewy. GHammer and Sickle text gold.svgdlessLiberal 14:39, 5 August 2007 (CDT)

If you check out the original version I made, you can see that it could be construed as anti-semitic (follow the link I put on "controls RationalWiki" and you'll see what I mean). --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 15:26, 5 August 2007 (CDT)

.....but.... we are controlled by Jews... GHammer and Sickle text gold.svgdlessLiberal 16:25, 5 August 2007 (CDT)

WTF? More Jewyness I say! Although I'm not Jewish, I feel Jewish. Doggedpersistance 11:53, 6 August 2007 (CDT)

I think it's contageous. GHammer and Sickle text gold.svgdlessLiberal 18:50, 6 August 2007 (CDT)
It is?! Damn... checks foreskin I feel a little Jewiness coming on, too... wait, what does it feel like? humanbe in 19:20, 6 August 2007 (CDT)
You don't feel it until it's too late, and even then, it's just the burning sensation from being burned as a heretic. GHammer and Sickle text gold.svgdlessLiberal 21:09, 6 August 2007 (CDT)

--My cat is smarter than Andrew Schafly RA harass stalk 02:45, 6 December 2007 (EST)

✡!

I vote that we start the Jew Cabal, and plan our Zionist takeover of the internet in seekrit.

I'm sorry, I'm bored. Sue me. --Linus(plot evil tech) 16:47, 18 December 2007 (EST)

slander

I'll let the slander go for now, if you explain what this "!!!1!1!!!111!!" means. user:Bohdan N544023135 90578 6551.jpg 16:37, 19 December 2007 (EST)

It's just a way of abusing exclamation points used on the internet. More specifically, immature people sometimes say "OMG!!!1!1!1!11!!" on the internet, and I was parodying them. --My cat is smarter than Andrew Schafly RA harass stalk 16:44, 19 December 2007 (EST)
hehe, Ames uses that! user:Bohdan N544023135 90578 6551.jpg 16:46, 19 December 2007 (EST)
I hope this makes up for the slander. --My cat is smarter than Andrew Schafly RA harass stalk 17:51, 19 December 2007 (EST)

Ames uses that because he talks like a 16 year old girl. Or so his girlfriend tells him.-αmεσ (soldier) 13:05, 20 December 2007 (EST)

Anti-Idaho sentiment is a real problem these days. user:Bohdan 23:13, 20 December 2007 (EST)
I think Idaho gets bad press because non-Idahoans don't hear anything beyond the "potato growers" stereotype. Really, aside from Washington and California, the far west states are quite neglected. --Wandalise me Bohdan! RA talk stalkOver 145 edits! 23:18, 20 December 2007 (EST)
Well if you agree there is a problem, why not try to end the vicious stereotype? You should redirect Best state ever to Idaho. user:Bohdan 23:21, 20 December 2007 (EST)
Done. --Wandalise me Bohdan! RA talk stalkOver 145 edits! 23:24, 20 December 2007 (EST)
Its always nice to see someone do their part to end needless stereotyping. user:Bohdan 23:25, 20 December 2007 (EST)

Lonely pages

Thanks for helping with those. Researcher 03:12, 22 December 2007 (EST)

You're welcome. --Wandalise me Bohdan! RA talk stalkOver 160 edits! 03:12, 22 December 2007 (EST)

lulz

Aren't you clever! ГдлессЛиберал 10:17, 22 December 2007 (EST)

See? I'm not the only one singing my praises! :) --Wandalise me Bohdan! RA talk stalkOver 230 edits! 11:33, 22 December 2007 (EST)

Nice Work on teh Front Page.

Yup. Very nice indeed. PFoster 16:01, 22 December 2007 (EST)

It's nearly blootiful. CЯacke® 16:03, 22 December 2007 (EST)
Thank you! It was a cathartic experience to do something serious around here (as opposed to my more humorous edits). --Wandalise me Bohdan! RA talk stalkOver 270 edits! 16:06, 22 December 2007 (EST)
That green just doesn't look right... How about a different pair of shades of blue/purple? Or it might look better if that section had a very light green background so the header would match it? Also, I hate to say this, but although the links there were a great idea, they would fit nicely under the "contents" stuff. What do you think? humanUser talk:Human 19:18, 22 December 2007 (EST)
I'll let you fuss with the colors. Anything but the old, monotonous baby-colors scheme. As for fitting the links under the contents section, I disagree. The contents section is already a bit bloated. Additionally, I feel we need to draw special attention to the debates and essays. Really, they are the only thing that differentiates us from other wikis—that users are expected to express their opinions. The nature of the contents section is that everything in it is an article. While you can and are encouraged to contribute to them, their end goal is to be articles, not vehicles for personal expression. I feel that having a particular section that emphasizes the need for participation is highly valuable, more valuable than, say, stuffing it under the generic "contents" section. --Wandalise me Bohdan! RA talk stalkOver 300 edits! 19:51, 22 December 2007 (EST)

<-- Ah, ok, good points about the placement, thanks. I'll fuss with the colors and feel free to comment on what I do here, at my talk page, or main page talk.

By the way - that lining up probelm you mentioned is caused by an extra table of some sort on the right hand side. You can "see" it if you take the first bgcolor thing on the "right side" code and change it to 000000 and preview - you'll see a black line at the top, and chunk of black at the bottom. I am still trying to figure out what to remove to make that go away (I should sandbox it so I can break it over and over again without hurting the site!)

Oh, and how do you feel about putting those "blurb" subfiles directly into the miscellanea file? Thanks again! humanUser talk:Human 19:59, 22 December 2007 (EST)

PS, to see some intersting (and awful) random color combos go here! humanUser talk:Human 20:02, 22 December 2007 (EST)

I fixed the vertical alignment problem!!! Also, that green is beginning to grow on me... anyway, to wrap up for now, and as the header says, nice work!!! humanUser talk:Human 22:59, 22 December 2007 (EST)
Thanks again. And your welcome ^_^ --Wandalise me Bohdan! RA talk stalkOver 300 edits! 23:38, 22 December 2007 (EST)

Japan

"mainland Japan (or whatever the term for the two biggest islands is)"
The four largest (which look like two, because Honshu, Shikoku, and Kyushu are so close together) are referred to as the Home Islands. ГдлессЛиберал 13:16, 24 December 2007 (EST)

Hi

Your name is Radioactive afikomen, not "Ra". --98.17.50.123 03:33, 2 January 2008 (EST)

IP has a very good point. You need to apologize to Ra. user talk:Bohdan 03:36, 2 January 2008 (EST)

And the Great Sun God RA came forth, and addressed the accusations with a thundering "Who cares?"

Look at my signature! Do you not see the HOLY LETTERS "Ra"? Glowing with their great Čerenkov radiation-ness? Fool! Do not insult mythological beings! Or their children! --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 03:39, 2 January 2008 (EST)

  • now hold on a second. That user is user:Ra. Your signature says "RA. There is a difference. You should apologize to me, the IP, and to user:Ra. user talk:Bohdan 03:42, 2 January 2008 (EST)
Oh, so Christians can capitalize LORD, but I can't capitalize my name? --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 03:47, 2 January 2008 (EST)
Red herring. I await my apology, and the IP awaits his. user talk:Bohdan 03:49, 2 January 2008 (EST)
RA makes apologies to no one. Well, not everyone really, that would be kind of harsh. So just you, really. --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 03:51, 2 January 2008 (EST)
So, the IP will get an apology? user talk:Bohdan 03:52, 2 January 2008 (EST)
No. For he is Satan. Why would I apologize to to Christian deities, especially ones that impersonate me? It offends me that you ask the Great Sun God RA to apologize to a being that clearly does not exist. --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 03:56, 2 January 2008 (EST)
  • Due to some idiots mistake, I am a sysop. I demand an apology, or I will block you. user talk:Bohdan 03:57, 2 January 2008 (EST)
I fixed that grievous error. I'm surprised you lasted as long as you did... Long Live RA Ra rA. RoAr!!! humanUser talk:Human 04:05, 2 January 2008 (EST)
It was a surprise to me also. I went to edit a page and got the protect page menu. user talk:Bohdan 04:06, 2 January 2008 (EST)

Signature

Could you please use {{subst:}} when you sign your sig otherwise it is forever changing. Jollyfish.gifGenghis Keep RW tidy 01:44, 19 April 2024 (EST)

That's what I originally did, but that puts the code itself on the page, and people started complaining about how long it was. See for yourself:
<small><font color="#b7410e">'''[http://www.rationalwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=User:Radioactive_afikomen&action=edit <font color="#b7410e">Wandalise me</font>] Bohdan!'''</font></small> [[User:Radioactive afikomen|<font color="#00FFFF">'''''R''A'''</font>]] <small>[[User talk:Radioactive afikomen|<sup><font color="black">'''talk'''</font></sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/Radioactive afikomen|<sup><font color="black">stalk</font></sup>]]</small><small><sub><font color="#00FFFF">Over 580 edits!</font></sub></small>
See? --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 19:16, 6 January 2008 (EST)
The "forever changing" thing iz cool. It also lets him change it everywhere if he wants to. But - RA, it appears your sig has a line break and a space, which puts your time stamp on the next line in a weird grey box. Can you fix that? humanUser talk:Human 20:49, 6 January 2008 (EST)
I'm still trying to fix that CR thing. Is there a reason for all those "span" tags? Simplifying it might be all that is needed. I'm a gonna keep working on it; feel free to revert me at any point along the way. humanUser talk:Human 22:27, 6 January 2008 (EST)
I fixed it by pulling out all the "span" tags. Maybe they would work (whatever it is they are for) if they are outside the links instead of inside them? humanUser talk:Human 22:30, 6 January 2008 (EST)

Demotion

How would you feel about being demoted? Barring any objections that is. Pinto's5150 Talk 21:15, 13 January 2008 (EST)

...I have no idea what you are talking about. --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 21:17, 13 January 2008 (EST)
Demotion = Sysop. Pinto's5150 Talk 21:27, 13 January 2008 (EST)
To be completely honest with myself, I don't feel I'm ready for that degree of responsibility. Perhaps a few weeks or months from now. But I appreciate the offer. --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 21:32, 13 January 2008 (EST)
Ok, let me know if you ever change your mind. Pinto's5150 Talk 21:33, 13 January 2008 (EST)

WIGO

RA: you know not of what you speak. The guy (TK) has no moral scruples - at all. I could throw him a hell of a lot further than I'd trust him. He's (allegedly) threatened to contact employers in the past. He's des[icable. (apologies for commenting here - my connection's too slow & my edit limit too small for the section) [BTW - there's no great responsibility with sysoppery - just helps to revert vandalism] SusanPurrrrrrr 14:56, 14 January 2008 (EST)

I know I have no experience with Conservapedia. But I believe it is best to assume delusion over malevolence. And from my own experience with him, I find that if (a)he doesn't know you and (b)he isn't provoked, TK is generally quite cordial. Besides, a large part of his alleged immorality was probably due to the environment of Conservapedia. Not everyone who goes there is going to avoid being corrupted by the toxic atmosphere of the site, Susan. --Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 15:04, 14 January 2008 (EST)
RA, I think Susan knows of what she speaks. TK's history goes back before RW and CP at least to a site called "Hot or Not" where TK had been a moderator. When RW first started they were contacted by another former moderator of HoN who warned them that involvement with TK would lead to misery as he had virtually destroyed our moderator community at HoN because he had fomented in-fighting. TK became a sysop shortly after joining CP and established his own brand of authoritarianism with many editors being kicked out for the lamest of excuses. The "toxic environment" at CP really only started to develop after TK's elevation (I would hesitate to make a link between these events). After a group of "liberal" editors established RationalWiki 1.0 they were joined by TK who on one hand proceeded to verbally abuse and insult everyone in public but would communicate with individuals in private e-mails and IM claiming that he wanted to undermine CP and be very friendly, but he tended to play each one off against the other and sometimes added his own vandalism and plagiarism to CP. I just wonder what integrity TK has with all his manipulation? Probably he is not concerned about the values of the sites he frequents but just gets a kick out of pulling people's strings (as he does repeatedly with AmesG). He has also repeatedly claimed that people are who they are not, whether through malice or willful ignorance I don't know. However, claims were made on this site in the middle of 2007 that Fox was an RW sock, in an attempt to undermine his position at CP. And now TK is repeating the claims with the added bonus of incriminating BrainCo as well. These two may or may not be RW socks, I have no knowledge but what does it say of TK that he feels the need to say so either here or as Kbolton on CP (I have pretty strong evidence that TK is Kbolton but cannot reveal it without compromising others). So who is he trying to destroy - honest editors at CP , editors at RW or both? He probably doesn't really care, TK has flitted between RW and CP attempting to stir up discontent on both sites. He has also operated his own socks on both CP and RW. Your experiences with TK may have been amicable but I have seen several threads where he has suddenly turned nasty, you may think that threats of physical violence on internet sites or private emial are hyperbole but who can tell what someone might actually do in reality? I am sure that TK is pleasant to you and other recent editors here but he used similar tactics to disrupt HoN. His recent short-lived return to CP saw him trying to throw his weight around and he was leniently blocked by Fox for abusing other editors, something that would have earned a 5-year+ ban if he had been the giver rather than the receiver.

What I can congratulate TK for from a RationalWiki point of view is that sowing seeds of more doubt into Aschlafly's mind about who can or cannot be trusted only serves to hasten the demize of CP. Only one one new sysop (AS jr.) in the last five(?) months despite several departures shows that Andy doesn't know who to trust. PJR and DanH are obviously finding it hard going, SharonS has other things on her mind nowadays, DeborahB has been notably invisible and many other sysops are just dwindling away so trying to sabotage a revitalized Fox was a good move. Of the longterm nonsysop editors at CP Iduan is going, HelpJazz is still fighting for nightedit rights, BrianCo might as well pack it in as well as he will have been well and truly discredited, while Tash & Learntogether are not going anywhere either. Once that little group pack up and go home then Andy is going to be running CP with just Bethany and Karajou as his aides de camp and TK will be able to claim the credit. Poison Ivy 17:21, 14 January 2008 (EST)