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I WILL NOT RESPOND TO ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT MY SINCERITY, OR TO ANY PERSON WHO LABELS ME A TROLL.
ASoRK
What about creating a new, much better Wiki, which is really rational? I'd suggest to call it A Storehouse of Rational Knowledge. Editor at CPOh, Finland! Why? 09:21, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
- Or A Rational Source of Enlightenment. ГенгисRationalWiki GOLD member 09:44, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
- ARSE doesn't appeal to me, truth be told. More of a fanny man. MarcusCicero 11:05, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
I was really polite
But dude, you can't seem to just give it up. I gave you three simple options......
- Stay and enjoy RW for what is and avoid what you dont like.
- Leave for good and we'd all forget.
- Continue to be a prat and expect to be flamed and vandal binned.
You choose third. Reap what you sew. Ace McWickedI'm a pretty big deal around here... 12:34, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
- Ace, no offense, but you are behaving like an autocrat. I am not a vandal so you cannot put me in the vandal bin. If you think I am a troll - fine - not much I can do about that. But Rationalwiki of all places should be able to deal with a bit of trolling without resorting to bans and vandal binnings.
- And you do not decide what RW is and what it isn't. I'm not forcing anything on anybody, merely expressing an opinion. If you don't like that opinion then don't adopt the measures I propose - I AM NOT FORCING YOU TO DO ANYTHING SO PLEASE STOP BEHAVING AND THINKING LIKE AN AUTOCRAT. MarcusCicero 14:08, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
- Can we both put emotions to the side and just be rational?!
- Marcus: RationalWiki is ultimitally the sum of its editors, and no matter how much one or two or three editors here hate internet memes and humour, it will still go on. If it really bugs you, just do what I do when something (rarely enough) bugs me, turn around and whistle. (I find Never Gunna Give You Up to be a good tune). If you are sincere in your desires for a more serious wiki, RationalWiki will never be it, but you can do what you believe is best by making articles the way you would want them to be created.
- And Ace, yes, I disagree with Marcus and think he may be just a troll, but the other side of me figures that he just may be sincere, and the vandal bin is indeed a vandal bin, not a troll bin. Just about the entire community disagrees with Marcus's attempts to be serious on RationalWiki, and with that prevailing attitude, I think I can honestly say that anything Marcus proposes will never get through. So long as we keep biting his ass when he bites ours, recent changes will be flooded with an awful lot of grumpy people (and presumably, a rise in average blood pressure of all RW users).
- So let the show go on. I see no reason to get involved in most Marcus discussions because they all wind up in the same place, accusations of trolling and doucebaggery and pompousness and general wankery going in every direction. Can't we all just grow up, or is everyone going to keep going this way? ĴάΛäšςǍ₰ no really. 14:24, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
- I'm not asking for a more serious wiki. Just a more rational wiki. Just a wiki that actually goes some way to matching the lofty goals you set for yourself in the about section and in the Mission statement. there is a reason why the intellectual heavyweights have left - attitudes like Ace (The parody of the redneck boozer in South Park) telling someone that if you don't like it you can just geeeeet out doesn't help. MarcusCicero 14:27, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
- Well, agree and disagree. From where I sit, your definition of a rational wiki is your definition, and my definition of a rational wiki is my own, just as Human has his own and Kels has her own. There is no single right or wrong definition of what this wiki should be. Now, I do agree with you, the attitude of "like it or leave it" is vaugly remniscant of a "light vs dark" philosophy, one that I can honestly say I disagree with. However, calling someone a moron while inserting words into an article is also something I disagree with.
- I am not asking you to leave, but I am asking you to do this - look at how you react when people inpugn on you, just refrain from striking back. When someone says "troll" just ignore it. You will find that not responding with negative force might help out the image of you in RationalWiki, and might give you more leeway in asking for changes. Javasca₧ smashing weasels! 14:36, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
- It may be called vandal bin, but surely, its use should not necessarily be confined to vandals. Until now, I didn't get involved in the whole MC-debate, but I want to state that I think that the vandal bin is a very apt place for MC to be in. If MC is insulted by the label, let's rebrand it: deep thinker drawer? goat free zone? That should make MC happy!
- larronsicut fur in nocte 14:49, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
- Why should he be reduced to one edit every half hour? Because he says things we don't like? Stupid bastard Hoover! 14:56, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
- short answer: yes, because he does nothing else but saying things we don't like. larronsicut fur in nocte 15:32, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
- Hmm... Unproductive activity, such as 90% saying things we don't like and only 10% saying things we like, may result in vandal binning of the account. I like it! Stupid bastard Hoover! 15:36, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
- I'm absolute okay with being unproductive! larronsicut fur in nocte 15:56, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
- Hmm... Unproductive activity, such as 90% saying things we don't like and only 10% saying things we like, may result in vandal binning of the account. I like it! Stupid bastard Hoover! 15:36, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
- short answer: yes, because he does nothing else but saying things we don't like. larronsicut fur in nocte 15:32, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
- Why should he be reduced to one edit every half hour? Because he says things we don't like? Stupid bastard Hoover! 14:56, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, I'm struggling to understand how your matter can exist and not implode with a serious overdose of irony and hypocrisy. MarcusCicero 15:58, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
- I'm not okay with being counterproductive! larronsicut fur in nocte 16:03, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
- To think all of this came out as a result of me creating a reforming group within rationalwiki which is non cumpulsory and voluntary in nature. You people really need to work out why you got so worked up by it because quite frankly its a complete mystery to me. MarcusCicero 15:46, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
- You didn't "create a group" - you just pontificated about a hypothetical group. It's not a group if there's only you in it. If you think RW needs to be more intellectual, then try leading by example - isn't that the jist of the whole reform group thing anyway? Let's see some substantive contributions. WèàšèìòìďMethinks it is a Weasel 15:53, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
- 'Substantive Contributions'? What does that mean here? Articles are guarded by an unfunny cadre who like making claims like 'Maggie Thatcher is to the left of Reagan' or that 'The Cold War was about sugar' MarcusCicero 15:56, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, yes. More shopworn excuses why you can't practice what you preach. You'll notice no one else has any trouble writing articles. Just you. That's because you don't write articles, all you do is your tired little edit by deletion with abrasive edit comment routine. Then you whinge when people revert you. It's getting old, stop it. Oh, and as regards 'The Cold War was about sugar'... Is it any wonder that I couldn't be bothered to take the discussion further when you so blatantly misrepresent what I was saying? --JeevesMkII The gentleman's gentleman at the other site 16:07, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
You know that talk pages are community property....
...so why break the rules when you're currently trying to get the place to live up to the rules? And if Jeeves's last comments are really "extreme personal attacks and trolling" to you, you need to grow a fuckin' pair, Princess. RaoulDuke 18:14, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Trolling newbies
Where? Stupid bastard Hoover! 18:46, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
- Here. Poor guy signs up and gets his first thread hijacked by Ireland's only miserable prick. --JeevesMkII The gentleman's gentleman at the other site 18:50, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
- That's not really trolling. Stupid bastard Hoover! 19:33, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
- don't even bother to try and stand in the way PH. These cunts would turn on you in an instant. You and I know this is ridiculous but sometimes the mob needs its meat. MarcusCicero 22:05, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
- That's not really trolling. Stupid bastard Hoover! 19:33, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Article checklist - articles that are wrong, immature and resistant to reason
As I pointed out, one is a red link, hard to defend or attack. Otherwise, why not say why they grub your steak? On your user page, or on their talk pages?
PS, Religion is stupid. There, I said it. ħuman 09:15, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
- I'll pray for you.
- I think it was meant to be Historical revisionism MarcusCicero 14:45, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
The sad part is...
...We could be on the same side and have sensible discussions here, as with the Lisbon Treaty thread. Sadly you had to go bossing people about when they just wanted some light-hearted internettage, which got up everyone's noses. It's up to the one to lighten up a bit, rather than the many to get serious. Totnesmartin 12:26, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
- I don't really know what you mean. All I ever want is quality discussions but the likes of Jeeves and Toast see everything I ever do as trolling. I was sincere with the reform society and am sincere in how I want this place to change, slightly, to something more meaningful. But everyone takes it the wrong way and thinks I want to forcefully change things. If you ask me, its the people who fly off the handle with ridiculous reactions who are the problem, not me. MarcusCicero 13:33, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
- I was about to start a new topic but I see TM got here first. The problem is with the way you go about debating. I'm quite prepared to listen to what you have to say if you say it without insulting other people. At the moment I picture you as a red-faced man with a small bald patch shouting from atop a soapbox outside Hyde Park. You may well have something to say that I want to hear, but until I can remove my fingers from my ears, I'm unlikely to expend the effort. –SuspectedReplicantretire me 16:06, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
- I agree, but in general over the last couple of days (Before the witch hunt) have I raised my internet voice? I was under the impression in the reform debate that I didn't really go down a nasty route, and that it was merely Jeeves and the like over-reacting to some pretty inane and uncontroversial proposals. MarcusCicero 16:09, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
Sock
They (the morons in charge of this wet-end site) think I am a sock of you. RWatcher 20:00, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
- I think you're a sock of his brother, actually. RaoulDuke 20:48, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
Lord of the Goons The official spikey-haired skeptical punk 20:50, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
- "Whatever happened to all the fun in the world?"--Frank Zappa. RaoulDuke 20:51, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
- Heh, it was actually a sock of Ace. Ace McWickedThe Liquid Room 20:54, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
- I might be a sock of MC... Hmmm... Web 21:32, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
- I'm a sock of MC, and so's my
wifegoat! Totnesmartin 21:45, 4 October 2009 (UTC)- I am a sock of MC, CUR and TK. Plus I play in a Polka band and I was the second guman on the grassy knoll. I also killed Jimmy Hoffa and buried him in a shroud at Atlantis. A shroud which is now known as Turin. Ace McWickedThe Liquid Room 21:53, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
- it's known as a whole city? A shroud that hosted the Winter Olympics and had The Italian Job (proper version) filmed in it must be a pretty good shroud. Totnesmartin 22:01, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
- I am a sock of MC, CUR and TK. Plus I play in a Polka band and I was the second guman on the grassy knoll. I also killed Jimmy Hoffa and buried him in a shroud at Atlantis. A shroud which is now known as Turin. Ace McWickedThe Liquid Room 21:53, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
- I'm a sock of MC, and so's my
- I might be a sock of MC... Hmmm... Web 21:32, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
- Heh, it was actually a sock of Ace. Ace McWickedThe Liquid Room 20:54, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
- "Whatever happened to all the fun in the world?"--Frank Zappa. RaoulDuke 20:51, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
Stop making socks of me
Just stoppit. MarcusCicero 09:17, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
Your indentation style
Please try to keep it sensible; it makes discussions easier to follow. Stupid bastard Hoover! 13:54, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
Hey
Hi MC. How's everything? SJ Debaser 18:53, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
- This is a trick of some sort, a nasty cruel trick involving 4chan and the internet. Needless to say 'Super'Josh I am doing just fine. MarcusCicero 09:12, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
Demotion
You have been demoted to Sysop again. Your mop and bucket will now be available on the special pages. There are plenty of people who seem happy with this and how you've been acting for the past few weeks so don't abuse their trust, please. d hominem 14:24, 26 October 2009 (UTC)