Essay talk:Abortion debate and open mind

I am also open to criticism over my grammatical errors. --Earthland 16:38, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

The middle ground

Your 'middle ground' section is a load of twaddle

The statement "Abortion is such a complicated issue, anyone who tries to pin such a complex issue down to a black/white solution doesn't understand the issue." is not saying the middle ground is correct. It has no analogy with your middle price comparison. It says that there is no one true valid answer.

To demonstrate a moral dilemma with no 'right' answer consider 'Sophie's choice' - a mother has to choose which of her children has to die. In that situation every answer is wrong, every answer has unacceptable aspects, every answer is problematic. Abortion isn't quite as loose/loose but it is similarly morally ambiguous. It doesn't matter where you draw the line it will be in the wrong place under some circumstances. Every answer to the abortion debate is the wrong one. Any person who tries to pin it down to any one moment, to give a black/white answer to a question which has no black/white answers, doesn't understand the question.

So, when it comes to keeping an open mind, try to realise that, however strongly you hold your views, that's all they are, views. Let your mind be open, appreciate why others disagree, don't just write them off as immoral and/or have an agenda. Doesn't it say anything to you that so many people and organisations disagree, doesn't that give the slightest hint that it's not quite that straightforward? Bob Soles 17:26, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

I could write at least two more sections to my essay based on your comment. You can be sure I will.--Earthland 17:31, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Until you remove the misstatements that are "The Middle Ground" your just polishing a jobbie (Glaswegian phrase for trying to make something bad look good). I know this is in response to my comments on the Talk:Abortion page - it is after all an exact quote - and all it shows is your lack of understanding. Failing to differentiate between saying "There is no answer" and "The middle ground is the answer" shows very poor comprehension. Bob Soles 17:43, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Hey Earthland

Have you ever known somebody who has ever had an abortion? Or contemplated one? Or had an unplanned pregnancy? ₩€₳$€£ΘĪÐ^{Methinks it is a Weasel} 18:42, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

That has simply so much to do with everything, and I feel myself obliged to point out that the alleged goal of your question is not just other kind of ad hominem, but as an answer, my mother has had an abortion (and as it turned out, her mother and pretty much all of her (and of course, mine) female relatives). That was the first thing that made me think about it, a long time ago. As you may know, Soviet Union was one of the first countries that made the abortion legal.

I guess you wanted to say that life is tough, and I am an evil moralist who has no contact with reality and probably can't even imagine what it looks like and has ever done anything to help the "real" human beings. Am I correct? --Earthland 18:58, 24 November 2009 (UTC)