Debate:Dealing with community growth at RationalWiki

What went wrong? Why are we so angry at each other? Why are we at odds over silly issues, like whether some user should be "blocked" or not?

We are failing at the one reason we are "together" right now - fellowship.

Do we need to re-address the community standards in order to be able to block one troll?

Why are people so wound up over some user?

We have dealt with worse, and survived.

Why are some people here so bent on "banning" a user? If we are to "ban" a user, we will have to implement "checkuser". Is that what we want?

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Huw, we are growing and having growing pains. But we will come out better for it. Be positive. Tetronian ^{you're clueless} 04:16, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Growing pains, yes--more people to try to manage, more chance for friction points to develop. Add in a younger demographic brought on with CP's higher profile, too. TheoryOfPractice (talk) 04:21, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

We are failing at the one reason we are "together" right now - fellowship.

Not really. We're together because we signed up- fellowship applies to Cabal only.

Do we need to re-address the community standards in order to be abler to block one troll?

Yes, otherwise someone with no knowledge of the situation will overturn it

Why are people so wound up over some user?

Insulting behavior and harassment.

“”Emperor, go fuck off! Its obvious who I am, who fucking made you the grand policeman around here? Why do you feel the need to block everyone you dislike forever? RW is a trolling hub yet you insist that an outed troll should be blocked indefinately. You fucking hypocrite. I do nothing worse than what you cunts do to CP. Now grow the fuck up and stop behaving like A FUCKING DICTATOR!!!

We have dealt with worse, and survived.

Yes, because we dealt with it, not left it unresolved. TK anyone?

Why are some people here so bent on "banning" a user?

Because we believe that he crossed the line and needs to be removed as a member of this community

I'm sorry, but believing that means you're a fascist, apparently. --Kels (talk) 04:56, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

If we are to "ban" a user, we will have to implement "checkuser". Is that what we want?

BULLSHIT. We are perfectly competent of identifying destructive socks of one user and dealing with them as we see fit. See my response over at RationalWiki:The case of MarcusCicero‎

I think we're finished here. --The Emperor _{Kneel before Zod!} 04:21, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Emperor, I don't think you improved this discussion in any way whatsoever. ħuman 04:33, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Remember TK. I mean, fuck, it doesn't take a genius to find when somebody is chock full of bullshit. If you let it grow, nothing good can happen - only more pain will come from it. Chop off this infected finger now, and live with that injury, don't let the infection spread throughout the arm. If you can, remember TK. If not, I hope you've read enough to know the dangers of letting bullshitters actually sow seeds of their own validity into your mind. I don't intend to offend, but we should learn from our own history. --Hoji^{ni hao} 04:26, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

We should just remember that most people on the Wiki are agreed that the trolls are not doing us any good. The disputes are amongst ourselves concerning how best to punish them. ListenerX^TalkerX 04:39, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Ignore him, and leave him in the bin he is in. He is a self-centered prick who needs to insult people to feel intellectually superior, and quite frankly, I am sure the entire site is pissed enough at him that we don't want that asshole to ever harass us again. Leave the fucker where he is, and move on. This rant bought to you by Javascap 05:43, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

I like him, he pisses Ace off and I don't like Ace very much. Web (talk) 05:49, 11 December 2009 (UTC)