Conservapedia talk:What is going on at CP?

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Hate site confirmed?

The best time to kick a man is when he's dead, it seems. EddyP 19:58, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Hardly surprising, but disgusting just the same. Being from the UK, I'm not that familiar with his politics, but my impression from what I have read so far is that he was pretty widely respected on both sides of the aisle. Of course, AndyPants is incapable of respecting someone who disagrees with him - he doesn't have the mental capacity perhaps. Worm 20:33, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Wow, that's really vicious. Of course, we were pretty nasty when Falwell died... but we aren't pretending to be an encyclopedia. Human 20:48, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Of course, Falwell was one of the most repressive, bigoted men in the United States, actively seeking a theocracy. Ted Kennedy just doesn't stack up in his liberal-atrocities. Publius 01:55, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

They think he was far worse than any of their people. Human 03:22, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

You thought Andy was done after that "news" story? --Sid 00:09, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Usually I would dismiss this as typical of Andy's misplaced bitterness, but unfortunately I went to WorldNutDaily first where every other comment from Farah was making a "joke" about that young lady dying in Kennedy's car. This is sadly enough another example of the hyper-partisanship that is making political debate in the US almost impossible. Pi 00:21, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

News you won't see on CP anytime soon: "The senator’s final moments were spent peacefully, among loved ones, in prayer. Kennedy biographer Adam Clymer on the family patriarch’s secret: the depth of his Catholic faith."TheoryOfPractice 04:27, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

I, for one, am happy for one thing if nothing else - the old dog died peacefully at home among his loved ones. We should all be so "lucky". Human 04:34, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Personally, I'm shooting for the Johnny Hart method, just conk out on my drawing table. --Kels 16:01, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Andy is a fucking disgrace. I wasn't here when Falwell died and I wouldn't have said anything if I was here anyway. Andy is just a hate-filled ugly human being, and Ted Kennedy was twice the man Schlafly will ever be. SuperJosh 19:01, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Now that's what I call damning with faint praise! Lily The Pink 19:02, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Honey, you know it! SuperJosh 19:56, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

As I said on Human's talk page, I'm not a hateful person by nature, and I don't like to wish harm on people.... But I hope Andy gets cancer of the Penis. This is beyond disgusting (and especially ironiic given that their article on Uncyclopedia consists mostly of bitching about the Falwell thing). SirChuckB 20:15, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Regicide

I know that various bits of Andy's NT re-translation project have been WIGOed but has any one actually read the translation of Mark? It flows like broken glass through the rectum. Erratically, painfully and with a pile of bloody shit at the end. It may be conservative in his eyes but it has murdered the language of the KJV. And on a pedantic note, having decided that lake was a better word than sea, he blithely continues with references to the "seashore". Never one to miss a plug for largely defensive weapon of gun he also now has translated a "strong man" as a "well-armed man". Genghis Khant 21:08, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Yup. He's not "translating" by any means, nor is he de-liberalizing much. He's just sorta re-wording everything, and doing it poorly. No doubt he's quite pleased with hisself.--WJThomas 21:23, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

No kidding. "What a great way to start the day!" LOL Nx 21:28, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

[1] Yeah, that's awesome. It's almost worth stealing. Human 23:03, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Looking at the history DoglasA & lately Daniel Pulido seem to have joined in the fun quite a bit. Parody? Toast 21:31, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

I was under the assumption that Andy's translation was going to be something like "In HELL the HELL beginning HELL God HELL reated HELL the HELL heavens HELL and HELL the HELL Earth. Hell." Phantom Hoover 21:37, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

He's likely saving HELL for the major Jesus speeches. Because you need to remember that Jesus emphasized HELL. Not love. Not forgiveness. HELL. --Sid 00:11, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

What makes me laugh everytime Andy says that is Jesus actually didn't emphasize hell...... HELL DIDN't EXIST TO JESUS. The ultimate punishment he often spoke of was a seperation from God when the son of man came and brought heaven to Earth. I assume you all knew this, but it feels good to type it. SirChuckB 05:18, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

"It's a beautiful thing, the destruction of words." Like I said on good old RW before the great darkening, Andy wants to translate the Bible from English to better English. He's not interested in the accuracy of translation, he simply wants the Bible to say whatever he wants it to say.

This goes beyond mere narcissism or delusions of grandeur. Andy clearly believes that conservatism is his god and that Christianity must be in service of that god. Stile4aly 05:28, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

It makes me laugh. I was shopping out to different religions to see what each one was all about and I mentioned to a friend that I couldn't join a religion that went against certain political beliefs (treatment of women, gay rights, etc) and she yelled about how horrible that was. I shut her up by saying "Hey, I'm going in with that view. Better than some people who join a religion and then warp that religions teaching to their views." SirChuckB 05:36, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

See, now you're missing the point of religion. The most popular religions are great big moveable feasts. Basically, they have two core beliefs. The first is unique to the religion (e.g. "Jesus, the son of god, is our saviour and died for our sins" or "There is no god but god, and Mohammed is his prophet" etc.) and the other is the same with every religion; "Give us your money." The rest of it is entirely up to you, you can find a branch of the religion that more or less exactly reinforces the prejudices you came in with, just like choosing a political party.

Oh yeah and back on the original topic, I love the way Andy translates "wilderness" as "among the sceptics" in one verse and in the very next verse he translates the same word as "desert." Epic metaphor fail. --Jeeves 08:01, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Watergate

Rob if you are reading us here could you point to me where Liddy says they were looking for information on Chappaquiddick? As far as I could read they were looking for information about an alleged prostitution ring being run out of the DNC, but more likely they were looking for what ever they could throw at the democrats. Ignoring all this, trying to blame the victim rather than the perpetrators of the crime is pretty bad. Pi 05:07, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

In Robworld everything is connected, and the only point that matters is that the red under his bed is not dead. Everyone to the left of Goldwater is suspect, nay, guilty of being a Stalinist mole, and everyone else is suspect, too, of eating the last pop-tart. Human 05:13, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Goldwater isn't above suspicion either. TK 22:39, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

RJJensen has no balls

Look at him get kicked in the groin repeatedly by TK. It's been happening a lot lately. I think it's because TK misses us. RJJ has some certain desperation or I have no idea why he sticks around. 13:25, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

RJJ's problem is that, while he apparently agrees with CP's theoretical foundation (a general pro-conservative tendency, if I recall correctly), he doesn't quite know when to say "Yessir, you're absolutely right, sir."

Odd how he got sysop rights if he still doesn't (want to?) understand that on CP, you're only a conservative if (and as long as) Andy/Rob/TK find nothing bad about you. Let's see how this pans out. (Especially since RJJ - CP's resident historian, of all people! - still doesn't learn from history and merrily stays in the debate.) --Sid 14:12, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

this shows a certain amount of backbone. Calling TK's entry a 'little lecture' with 'deep flaws' isn't exactly towing the party line. Bob Soles 14:40, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Yawn. It's a pissing contest between a gutless retired professor who routinely gets his face rubbed in the dirt by a gutless sadistic community college dropout. TK's projection is palpable. I wonder how much time he spent perfecting his lectures to Herr Doktor Professor. As far as I'm concerned the only interesting outcome at this point will be if RJJ, notwithstanding his own wingnuttery, finally gets tired of participating in such a completely hopeless cesspit of a project before TK disappears him. Anything along the way has gotten pretty boring. BON 24.14.72.223

I'm not really a Prohibition/history expert, but shouldn't Andy "Economics Teacher" Schlafly applaud the business sense of someone who patiently sits on a supply of alcohol and starts selling it right after the ban is lifted (a time when there will be extremely high demand and when people who have the goods ready in large quantities can pretty much dictate the price)? But I guess things are different when it's about someone he doesn't like... --Sid 16:04, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

How galling must it be for a history professor to be lectured in sound historical scholarship by a used car salesman. He wouldn't take that kind of shit from no undergrads, so I can't fathom why he puts up with it from TK. --Jeeves 17:56, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

I can't say I have much sympathy for RJJ - like all the others, he's condoned the actions of the others there with his silence (not to mention his banning of Etrundel over the latter's plagiarism claims), so he's got what's coming to him. What's ironic is that he was "hounded" off WP and CZ for POV pushing (I assume - whatever he did on CZ got Larry involved) and now he's getting hounded out of CP by TK. The man must really want to work on a wiki for some reason. Maybe retirement is boring. Btw, wasn't it Editor@CP who kept asking us not to attack him for some reason? -- Psy_Whut? 18:07, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

They're all the same - I'm surprised TK hasn't deep-burned the stuff that was just posted here to promote the idea of a united Conservapedian front. It's not like at RW where you have varying degrees of agnostic/atheist and users from across the political spectrum (even if we are generally centre-leftists). Conservapedia: Barack Obama's an evil muslim socialist-fascist-nazi, George Bush and Christianity are literally the best things in the world and if you don't believe this then you get kicked off. So I've got no sympathy for any of them. SuperJosh 18:19, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

(UI) Hehe, funny, a few edits later [2] TK says "For you to state someone is or was a conservative 40 years ago..." struck me as funny. Now, at least, 50 years ago (his earlier vague figure), 1959, Joe had not yet had his stroke and was whoever he was. 40 years ago (aug 1969) he was 3 months from death. Human 21:24, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Archive

I don't take a lot of interest in Cp any more so I'm afraid so I'm not sure what's hot or still potentially interesting. Could somebody who is up on the conversations archive anything possible? It's to reduce bandwidth. Thanks.--Bob M 19:57, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Done. TheoryOfPractice 21:03, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks ToP.--Bob M 21:06, 27 August 2009 (UTC)