Conservapedia talk:What is going on at CP?

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Push to 100M by on July 4 Status Page

I spent the last couple hours cobbling together a bot to monitor the CP statistics page and provide an ongoing report about how we are doing. The stats are updated every minute and the current rate of progress is based only on the last hour of data. Currently we are lagging far behind. Fedhaji 12:02, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

We don't need stats updated every minute. Oncce a day is sufficient. Otherwise it floods our recent changes and I'll have to vandalbin it. Генгис^unbelieving 12:06, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

I requested it be flagged as a bot, which means that it shouldn't clutter up RC at all. Fedhaji 12:08, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

That's better. But it still doesn't need to update every minute. Surely hourly would do? Генгис^{Is the Pope a Catholic?} 12:10, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

I have changed it to every hour, averaging over the past day. I intended for it to be fairly quick to respond to changes in the overall rate, but I guess you are right. Fedhaji 12:17, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Anybody know if history views count as page views in this context? Mountain Blue 12:33, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

We need WesleyS back over there, categorizing and finding links for orphaned pages. They would have easily hit 100M views already. Aboriginal Noise ^{with 4 M's and a silent Q} 13:10, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, no idea what you're talking about. What am I missing? Mountain Blue 13:41, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

When I was at CP, as WesleyS, I made like 8500 edits in 5 months. Aboriginal Noise ^{with 4 M's and a silent Q} 13:50, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

I had my computer running all night, viewed 15,000 pages, is there any chance the bot could be modified to feed out when we will finish at this rate? --Opcn 14:34, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm not a communist or anything but I don't really understand the point in this. Is it just for a bit of a laugh? I would have thought if they reach 100M Andy will be the one laughing? I feel sure I'm missing something obvious here. StarFish 15:47, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

It's to see Andy's reaction. 100 million site views will instantly gratify and embolden him. It will become serious business, and the true insightz will flow like wine.

I was thinking about notifying local New Jersey news networks. ^{— Unsigned, by: Neveruse513 / talk / contribs} 16:24, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

What, are you from New Jersey? Evil time Hoover! 16:28, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

No, but I was thinking that might not come up... "Hi, I'm calling to report the wild success of New Jersey local Andrew Schlafly's on-line encyclopedia, which recently surpassed the amazing milestone of up serving 100 million page views of Christian, family-friendly truth. I thought it might be appropriate for you to do a story on this local hero." Something to that effect. ^{— Unsigned, by: Neveruse513 / talk / contribs} 16:35, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

I do not condone any sort of wandalism / page bumping. That said, one should recall Andy's consternation when the last wiki upgrade was done. The page count is stored individually for each page, and for the site. Different counters - but they get updated at the same time. When a page is deleted, it doesn't reduce the site counter by that much. However, when the wiki software is updated, the site counter is set to the sum of the page counters. Andy was a bit disappointed to see the page count for the site drop (I think he called it a liberal counting scheme or something like that, though by all accounts, it is likely a more conservative one). If one was to bump the site count with a page that would be deleted for having too high a page count and Andy trumpets the 10M number, when the software is upgraded and it drops below 10M (anyone want to do the actual count? I know a number of high volume pages have been deleted) we can once again enjoy his disappointment at dropping below another imaginary number. --Shagie 16:37, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

For those of you wondering I use firefox with the iMacros add on, I set the macro to go to )i.e. click on) random page every time a page finishes loading. I also went under the edit menu to preferences, then to the content tab, and shutoff pictures javascript and java and that speeds it up and uses less bandwidth --Opcn 16:41, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm sure it doesn't really matter, but I'd try to be a bit moar discreet. "If I was going to bump page views, this is how I would do it...etc...but of course, I wouldn't do that". ^{— Unsigned, by: Neveruse513 / talk / contribs} 16:45, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Speaking of which, should those of us who might or might not be operating clickbots spread out the traffic among a number of pages or aim en masse for a single page (such as Law Terms D, per above discussion)? In the interest of traffic maximization in the face of burning, I think we should spread it out, but inflating a single embarrassing page of our choosing has a certain appeal. Also, is there a page (or pages) that contribute to view count but minimize server load? The number of views we might or might not be generating is around 4/sec, and we do not want to bring the site down or degrade it significantly. Fedhaji 17:28, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

In the interest of reducing bandwidth consumption on both ends, disabling image loading is an excellent route (especially if you're using Firefox & ReloadEvery, for example), or not accessing monstrous pages like Evolution or Alger Hiss. 17:35, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

100 mil? cratcratcratcratcrat oh pleeeeeeeeeeez! The Emperor _{Kneel before Zod!} 17:12, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Law terms D is a great target largely because there is so little on the page, but I think perhaps the whole law terms list might be a good idea. Just now D with out pictures took 2 seconds to load, I, C, and K all load in under half a second. If we tried with Alger Hiss then we would crash out the server and no one wants that, I used to hate the CP server, the one that was slow as mud, I do not want to recreate that experience for others. --Opcn 17:42, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Aren't we aiming 100 Mil on July 4th instead of by that day? [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 17:31, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes. I am not sure how to manage this, though. I propose that everyone stops at, say, 6 hours before we hit the 100M mark, whenever that is, then we can sit and cool our jets until midnight EDT, July 4, and then make the final sprint in the early hours of the 4th. If I invested some time in making a nice GUI-licious downloadable tool to automatically do clicks and manage this throttling, would people download it? Fedhaji 17:36, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

As we get close to 100M we can slow down, if its the 3rd and we are at 97M there is so way we can make it --Opcn 17:42, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

I wouldn't stop too close to 100M, as there is (surprisingly) actual web traffic on the site that may cause 100M to be achieved too early. Aboriginal Noise ^{with 4 M's and a silent Q} 17:44, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Having this occur on the 4th of July is a must. It will push Andy into a patriotic state of delirium...he will be completely overcome. The ensuing insights will be priceless. ^{— Unsigned, by: Neveruse513 / talk / contribs} 17:45, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

I am changing the section title now. [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 17:47, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Bot back up

Bot was not tolerant of occasional HTTP errors and went down. Now it is back. Fedhaji 17:15, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Minor issue

I'll preface this by whining about how I'd don't approve of this sort of thing, especially using the wiki to discuss it. Which isn't to say that I don't find the goal funny. With those delightfully contradictory statements out of the way, aren't DoS attacks illegal? Not that this is one, and people are even actively trying to make sure they don't break the CP server (well, someone mentioned it, at least), but the activities might look like a DoS thing, which might have repercussions. I'm probably wrong, of course. I do acknowledge that this isn't "vandalism", or "trying to mess up a website", by the way. The "plan" is to actually give the site owner some more of what he likes to boast about, as far as I can tell. ħuman 19:49, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I mentioned that earlier. It's an awful lot of trouble to make Andy smile. --Kels 20:04, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

I believe the current pace is just fine to satisfy the goal and the server's response is well within normal limits. ^{— Unsigned, by: Neveruse513 / talk / contribs} 20:10, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

I was curious about the legality as well. I don't think they're illegal in the US, but they are in Sweden and the UK. In any event, your ISP can get rid of you for doing it. Are there guidelines for what's appropriate for number of requests per second? User:Nutty Roux/sigtalk 20:26, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Great. I clicked on the next CP link I saw and got "503: The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later." Coinkydink, I'm sure, but still... ħuman 20:44, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

I saw that. But it's back up now. Fedhaji 20:46, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

I was having a hard time reading articles because of that. I'm glad CP is back so I can keep reading. User:Nutty Roux/sigtalk 21:06, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Slow Down!!

I just got a 503 error on 7 out of 10 tries, we have to slow down, even if we cannot make it. Anyone who is working with random pages, or with Ken's homosexual anthologies has to stop permanently, stick to small pages please. Keeping CP up is more important than reaching 100M by the 4th --Opcn 21:48, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Andy is making threatening noises

This may just be a coincidence, but a half hour ago Andy created this, talking about the illegality of bots. He seems to be bothered by our 4th of July celebration. Now we've been through this before—it's in the archives somewhere—but CP is not a "protected computer" in the sense of Federal law. Also, there is no "intent to defraud", and there is no "obtain[ing] anything of value", and the value, if there were any, is not "more than $ 5,000", and that there is no intent to "obtain or alter information in the computer that the accesser is not entitled so to obtain or alter". But other than that, Andy is, as usual, right on target. Gauss 01:46, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Andy read your own rules:

“”The operation of unauthorized wiki-bots is prohibited*. *Search engine and read only bots are exempt from this Commandment. To get authorization please post a note on User_talk:Aschlafly, stating what the bot will do, what username it will be under, and whether you have a working prototype. Bot owners are responsible for their bots' actions.

They are read only bots, but seriously if you are going to do this you can't interfere with the normal, smooth operation of the site. So keep the clicks down to a pace where you can't be reasonably accused of a DoS attack. - π 02:06, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Also it says "exceeded authorized access", requesting a page does not exceeded authorized access, as any one can do that. - π 02:09, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

It's not a coincidence, TK told him the ebil librul vandal site was gonna run scripts to muck up his site. Who knows how much "truth" was involved in what TK told Andy, since We all (us and TK) know Andy doesn't read here, but presumably, Andy and others have been seeing the 503's too, and are konfused. TK explained. This reads like an episode of Schlafly Doo. But it's what is really happening. ħuman 02:29, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Seems plausible. Also, we now have this. Fedhaji 02:47, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

I think:

“”Defendants need to something more than merely using a public website in the manner it was intended to be liable under the CFAA.

might be applicable but I don't understand what it means. ENGLISH, MOTHERFUCKER! DO YOU SPEAK IT? - π 02:54, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Meanwhile, he has yet to respond to my formal complaint of accusation of fraud on his site by a senior admin... f'ing twerp. Certified letter goes out Monday if he ain't on it... ħuman 03:05, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Wow, you can do that (Complaining to whom? Send a legal demand letter to Andy demanding to remove your name from the site? I would be surprised if he actually cares) ? No wonder everyone want to graduate from Law school. [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 17:07, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Seriously though... would Andy really want to risk FBI II? Mountain Blue 03:48, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Has Andy paid/lost anything of monetary value due to the FBI incident? I don't think so. Since this is FREE, I think he doesn't mind doing it again. [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 14:07, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Would the FBI really care? I highly doubt it, I mean they would have to look into the complaint but any amount of researching would point to this not being a DoS attack or anything of the sort. Alot of wackos, CP included, make claims to the FBI and are filed in the wacko pile. No fear gents, gman has limited reasources and tends to spend them on more important issues. As long as WE keep it civil, we are golden.--DylanB 04:42, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

K: I don't think Andy has lost anything tangible; you don't need a lawyer to report people to law enforcement. Andy seems to be pretty embarrassed by the whole thing, however; even mentioning the FBI incident over at CP means instant banhammer. For some reason or other Andy understands how much he's humiliated himself with this particular fuckup, and I don't see him wanting to repeat the experience. Mountain Blue 05:09, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Andy lost his marbles late December 2008 when he decided to let Terry Koeckritz back into the asylum. Генгис^{Is the Pope a Catholic?} 22:10, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

(UI) Moar Threatening noises from Andy. [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 02:31, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

The thing is, refreshing isn't considered a DoS attack (was taught this in Routing I CCNA, Systems Analysis, and Web Design I). I think we're safe on that part as well. Candlewick 20:04, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

A certain article has surpassed another certain article in page views on a certain website

Cheers to whoever's responsible for that. User:Nutty Roux/sigtalk 16:37, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

I kindly request that moar attention be paid to cp:Homosexual Obsession. ^{— Unsigned, by: Neveruse513 / talk / contribs} 16:59, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

It's hard to dump hits onto Homosexual Obsession at a substantial enough rate to matter without beating the server up. Sorry. 70.228.38.134 17:05, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, it is a little larger. Thanks for the consideration. ^{— Unsigned, by: Neveruse513 / talk / contribs} 17:41, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

The index pages are the best bet (things like Law Terms, Chemistry Terms etc). They are only few bytes as they have nothing on them. - π 08:19, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Relatively speaking. They still have a lot of Mediawiki boilerplate on them. Fedhaji 11:27, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Look through Ed Poor's contributions, you should find some good stubs there. - π 13:27, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Look at the dead end pages, there are few pages with only a category, no content whatsoever. I'm currently bumping John III. Bumped it up 1000 places so far. o.o Candlewick 08:35, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

cp:Sound is quite a good one.-- Kriss Akabusi^{AAAWOOOGAAAR!!1} 08:46, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Judging by the bot report you guys'll have to double the rate to achieve this. So close...! I would like to contribute - who can lend me a program to do it? 194.6.79.200 15:42, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

From what I've noticed, regular refreshing doesn't work. You have to do CTRL+F5 to renew the cache of the page in order for it to work (this was tested using one page and checking its pageview count continuously). I'm using jitbit MacroRecorder to do CTRL+R (since Opera doesn't use CTRL+F5). I've bumped John III up from 31k to 9k so far, but that's only 800 pageviews.

Jitbit's MacroRecorder. You can get a trial program (lasts 28 days). To use: after installation, go into settings and change some stuff like, unclicking the box that says "record mouse movement" or something like that. You would also want to change the speed to low (because you can't refresh too quickly either). Set the loop count to 0 for infinite looping. Then, go to the page you want to refresh, press CTRL+R (activates recording), and press CTRL+F5, then press Scroll Lock (stops recording). View the steps that the program has recorded and make sure to save the macro for later use.

Then, minimize the jitbit window, go to the page you want to refresh, and press CTRL+P (starts playback). Finally, leave your computer running. NOTE: If you try to do any other tasks on that computer, it will screw up your intended purpose of pushing pageviews. Make sure to press Scroll Lock or CTRL+P again to quit the macro. I hope this helped Candlewick 18:22, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

If you don't mind being close to 4th July already, iMacro addin for FireFox might be helpful as well. Things to stir up more lulz: check the popular pages for two short article to rotate/clear. [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 00:23, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Stat bot offline

As you may have noticed, the stats bot has been offline for several days. I have not brought it back online because of family problems that take priority over trolling. If someone else wishes to operate it, drop me a talkpage message. Fedhaji 11:13, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Ken's Insanity

Conservapedia has a huge package of knowledge that out-muscles atheist views! A leading creationist in Afghanistan is currently spreading the word of Conservapedia's evolution article to the masses!! Too much Hassel for you atheists?

Why does tehassfly allow Ken to edit the main page? I mean seriously, have a look at it in its current state. The (far) right bar is a relatively neat section of news and appropriately sized images, and then you scroll down the left to see a variety of random images with word soup underneath them. Who, in their right mind, would visit CP's homepage for the first time and think it was a serious site? Crundy 13:50, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

They really need to archive their news items. I scrolled down the page and I think the output alone would put enough people off thinking it a real site. Just look at the picture of Hitler and Darwin spliced together. You'd have to be retarded to think that a real picture. SJ ^Debaser 13:55, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

You're asking the wrong question. The Arsefly has never taken a lead role in the site, he isn't interested in the day to day running of it, it's administration or the minutiae of how it ought to be organised. He'll actively ignore anyone who endeavours to get him to make a decision. All that stuff has been delegated in perpetuity to the other "senior admins", which in practice these days means to TK. They've lost almost anyone who knew anything about making templates and other shiny navigation aids, so CP is never going to get any better than it is now. The correct question is, why doesn't TK beat on kendoll the way he does everyone else? The only reason I can think of is that kendoll does almost as good a job at destroying CP as TK does. --JeevesMkII ^{The gentleman's gentleman at the other site} 13:57, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Almost? He manages to do it better! The Emperor _{Kneel before Zod!} 15:43, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Again, I express regret at not finding Conservapedia a year or two ago when it was all-go with debate and slightly less banhammering and moar hilarious Andy-related antics. SJ ^Debaser 14:05, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Jeeves: Personally I'd muster a guess that TK hates Ken as much as anyone, and every time he sees one of his monumental fail additions to the homepage he gets a bit angry (and goes off and starts an argument with a rookie contributor) but never says anything. I can only think that kennyken is one of tehassfly's better loved bitches and even TK isn't stupid enough to block him knowing that andeh would just overturn it. It must make TK's blood boil every time Ken makes an edit. It's quite a lovely thought really. Crundy 15:23, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

As was revealed when they opened the SDG I think they all find Ken irritating and think he's a bit of a tit, but Andy has a sneaking respect for his inexplicable ability to achieve good Google rankings with his articles. StarFish 15:28, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

He's fiddeling with the main page again. Always promissing something coming soon but every time - every time! - it's a bitter dissapointment. I wish he would point to something that's actually happened rather than empty promises that never amount to anything. He always gets my hopes up for something really funny then - nothing. And yes, I love the pictures on main page. Sadly Ken's pictures are about the only really funny thing left on CP. More Ken. Please more. Can we have the Hitler/Darwin/Parrot 'we love eveolutionary racism' picture back please? Please?? StarFish 15:36, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Wow, he got rid of the bullfighting, creationist seagulls and the windmill. Now it only looks like a flange of five or six drunken baboons were let loose on the main page, rather than an even dozen. For your next trick, Kendoll, you can actually archive the news. You know, we have bots to do these sorts of things. It's a shame all your cohorts are morons. --JeevesMkII ^{The gentleman's gentleman at the other site} 15:50, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't think TK or any of them "hate" Ken, it's more like the Oh No! reaction of the centurion in Life of Brian when Biggus Dickus decides to read out the list of prisoners. Генгис^{Our ignorance is God; what we know is science.} 17:31, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Wait, did I just influence a change on the homepage to make Conservapedia a better place? I must be punished. Please excuse me whilst I whip my back with a cat-o-nine tails. Also, how come TK and Ken don't get banned for looking here when everyone else does? Crundy 21:31, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Terry Koeckritz, Ken, JPatti, Rob, Addison...Jinxy Baby?hi?...lots of them are avid readers. ^{— Unsigned, by: Neveruse513 / talk / contribs} 15:59, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

I would like to say how disappointed I am in the new, disimproved Main Page at CP. It could take months before we have it as good as it has recently been. Shame on you Crundy. DogP^{Marmite Patrol} 22:58, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Dear god, they've all gone. Maybe I should post something about there being not nearly enough hot chicks sucking my dick... Crundy 13:08, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Uhh, is this the conversation about the Google crap? Cause I checked mine, but I couldn't find it on the first 10 pages. Dx Candlewick 18:11, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

No no, I mentioned how shit the front page looks because of Ken's weird random images with messages about Google ranking / CP evalgalists, and so he deleted them all, thus making the site look more professional and less insane. I'm thoroughly ashamed with myself. Crundy^{Talk nerdy to me} 20:30, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Mommy and her boy chat on the radio

There's a few new podcasts from 6/20/09 on the Eagle Forum with Phyllis Schlafly interviewing Andy about homeskuling and Teh Conservativepedia. I'd liveblog it if I could stand more than 3 minutes, but maybe it's interesting to someone. Knock yourselves out. User:Nutty Roux/sigtalk 21:53, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

I'll suck it up and listen to it. I made it to the 6:26 mark, and I just couldn't handle any more of it. Andy did mention that his students "understand American History better than just about anyone right now" and "I have students who've acheived perfect scores on these very difficult exams!"--PitchBlackMind 22:18, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Heh, the "oh bollocks, our guest cancelled" episode. --JeevesMkII ^{The gentleman's gentleman at the other site} 22:13, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh, Crock o' Shite calls in talking about his excellent copy and pasting of news items and how great his contributions are. Oh, Lordy... Then the Arsefly talks about the empowering feeling of banhammering people, and how homskollars need to get the feel for the righteous banhammer. *facepalm* --JeevesMkII ^{The gentleman's gentleman at the other site} 22:24, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Hah! Google is biased against Christian values. He's delusional. --JeevesMkII ^{The gentleman's gentleman at the other site} 22:48, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

For those with the stomach.... Does Andy mention his triumphant victory over the horrible liberal liar Professor Lenski? SirChuckB^{DMorris for new Jinx!} 23:45, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Huh. Mommy's voice is more masculine than Andy's. Not that there's anything wrong with that.--WJThomas 23:47, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

No, he doesn't mention either Lenski or the evil liberals at RW. The funniest moment is when a homskollar alumnus of the Arsefly programme calls in and talks about how he go his wonderful full scholarship to Liberty U., Phy tells him how wonderful his future is going to be. No it isn't kid. You're getting a brainwashing, not an education. Your future involves employers looking at your CV and laughing before tossing it in the general direction of the round file. --JeevesMkII ^{The gentleman's gentleman at the other site} 00:06, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

"If liberals want to homeschool their kids, they have to follow my rules."--WJThomas 00:09, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

I've been skimming part one. Andy goes into the big classes are better thing; at around 15:00 (should be 8:30 I think) there's another male voice... "one of the administrators on your site..." ħuman 00:14, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

It was DeanS. Next up: the empowering mental exercise of "escorting people out and kicking them off the site" - to his mother's response of laughter... We really need to get a transcript of this... ħuman 00:16, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

"The liberals are infiltrating the homeschool movement." - Andrew Schlafly. ħuman 00:17, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Homskollar sighting at I forget when due to EC :( ħuman 00:30, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Is Assfly currently on the Harvard review board? I'm taking a drink for every lie or factual inaccuracy and need to know if I need to take a drink for that.Teabag 00:20, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Joe from St Louis: "Did you homeschool your son? Did that make him gay or was he already gay before that?" Vulpius 00:33, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

"He has started this thing on the internet, I don't know what you call it." Endorsement from mom! tmtoulouse 00:46, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

I just reached that. Big lulz. SJ ^Debaser 13:23, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh wow, CP is a cure for depression! This is great. tmtoulouse 00:46, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

@Vulpius- what time? I listened to the first and don't want to listen to the second. I need to wash my ears out with a Hitchens debate. By the way, I think I know why Andy calls phonics conservative- his mom is selling some learn to read materials. Corry 00:50, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Turbo reader! I am stopping the drinking game for medical reasons. Schlafy believes ever word, simply amazing. Teabag 00:52, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Part two at 16:00. Vulpius 01:24, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Best to listen while you're doing something else to not go crazy. I made it all the way through part 2 by only half-listening. One highlight: Andy and his mommie discussing SEO. So, anyway. These are just two mp3s, about 50 minutes total, including ads and promos. It would be fairly easy to chop them up into "segments" of about 6 minutes each and embed them, which I might do if a few of you promise to help transcribe them. If we only listen to every other word, the worms won't eat out our brains, at least. These are a friggin goldmine, I wonder if this is why CP has been so overloaded the last week or so? ħuman 01:04, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

I am genuinely afraid to listen to this...but I will. ^{— Unsigned, by: Neveruse513 / talk / contribs} 03:32, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Did you catch it? 2:22: "We've had over 76 million page views..."

Some possibilities:

• This is old and Phy had a guest cancel or some other hopefully humorous event(s)
• He's using the number calculated by LArron or Mountain Blue (I forget) so he doesn't get embarrassed if he updates the software? ^{— Unsigned, by: Neveruse513 / talk / contribs} 03:44, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I heard that, it made me wonder. But these shows are "live" and people can call in... so maybe choice two is correct? PS, I changed the header. It's not that hard to listen to, as Trent said, it's actually very funny. ħuman 03:49, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Listening to Aschlafly makes me think of him as Kermit the conservative. Warren Terra 03:57, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

8:35 makes me think it's old. He mentions that the Obama article has "over 900,000 page views". This is Andy Schlafly, folks. He love nothing more than to update you on exactly how many page views his blog has. Nothing (nothing) would have please Andy more than telling you that his Barack Obama essay has over 1,000,000 page views (it has 1,115,900ish). Unless someone has targeted that article (which I don't think would happen because it's way too big and wouldn't be that funny), I think it must have taken quite some time to get ~200,000 page views (maybe like when they had around 76,000,000 pageviews - which would be when?). So there. Old. ^{— Unsigned, by: Neveruse513 / talk / contribs}

I admit to pushing the Obama veiws. Not because I thought it was funny but just to keep Ken's Evo article dwon and I knew teh Assflea wouldn't delete it. Silly twit 06:46, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Maybe the show wasn't live on 6/20, but sometime earlier, just "blogged" by the harpy, or something, on 6/20? ħuman 04:11, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Christ man, Phylis sounds fucking terrible, like a godamn scratched record. Shit, I bet kids are scared of their frisbees landing in her yard. Ace McWickedⁱ⁹ 04:23, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

When Dean calls in he mentions several news-items that he put up on that day. He has not posted those items recently. ListenerX^TalkerX 04:27, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

So do you folks want me to slice up the mp3s and load up a set of pages we can transcribe so we can get to the truth? ħuman 04:30, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Found it. Dean is talking about articles he posted on January 10th. ^{— Unsigned, by: Neveruse513 / talk / contribs} 04:39, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

76,000,000 page views - that would be January.... Mommy said: Every Saturday I have a forum called Eagle Forum Live - she didn't say that it is live! And the callers may be preselected... larron^{sicut fur in nocte} 05:41, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Well, at least one got hung up on... to have live callers, you have to have a live show!!! PS, tried to fix image link. ħuman 05:51, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

(EC) This sounds like pure comedy gold. I've downloaded the mp3s to my iPod later for later listening. I rather hoped the PDF newsletter might have contained transcripts but it's just a single sheet flier. If Dean and a homeskollar phoned in then your could pretty much bet that the whole thing is set up beforehand and Dean has probably got better things to do at the moment because of his wife. Генгис^unbelieving 06:55, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

“”a live call-in program featuring one of the most admired women in the world

Celebrity culture or what? Генгис^{RationalWiki GOLD member} 07:00, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Apparently this is a repeat of the January 03 broadcast. Генгис^{You have the right to be offended; and I have the right to offend you.} 07:08, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

That is hillarious. Man that's a slice of steaming hot red-neckary right there. It explains a lot. StarFish 07:28, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

mp3s downloaded, for later remixing. Totnesmartin 09:06, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm about 5 minutes into the first file. It's pure gold. I'm currently editing it in garageband to see if I can make some sort of autotune remix of it. Nearly everything that they say is just setting up strawmen. -Lardashe

I'm now about 17:40 in, and my opinion of Andy has somehow managed to plummet. He's not just an ignorant guy who thinks he knows it all - he's got a sense of malice that makes him a dangerous person. Like most of the nutbars out there who claim that God/Jesus wants them to do things, he has reinterpreted the Bible to reinforce the way he already is. -Lardashe

Andy alludes to bias in the Bible a few times. It seems to make his mom uncomfortable. ^{— Unsigned, by: Neveruse513 / talk / contribs} 13:39, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

I always thought she was a little embarrased of him. Didn't she take down a link from her site to CP? Crundy^{Talk nerdy to me} 13:53, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

I snap. Autotune is built into Garageband. User:Nutty Roux/sigtalk 17:36, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

I love it at the start when it is clearly identified that Andy is doing it over the phone. "I need to pay no respect to my mom by getting over to the secret broadcast location." [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 18:52, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

To be fair, nobody does "in studio" interviews on talk radio these days. Well, it's rare, anyway. ħuman 19:04, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Well it wouldn't hurt him to pop in and see his dear old mom once in a while. Even Terry Koeckritz does better by his mom than Andy. Генгис^pillaging 19:35, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

And then did his mom calls him and engineer? There is a licensing issue. I am contending that he does not have a P.E. license. Can someone look into it further? (It's illegal to be called an engineer in many states if you don't have a license). [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 21:08, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

"No name and address required." Yeah, you just have to shut off the thing in your brain called logic. This is such typical Schlafly. 13.33 "Learn what was wrong about what you learned in school." Argh. This is giving me a bloody tumour. SJ ^Debaser 13:23, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

"We're not trying to be the most popular movement out there."

Thank fuck for that. SJ ^Debaser 13:31, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Inconvenient edit button

I starting to build a structure where we might actually take the trouble to transcribe the best parts at Conservapedia:Andy Schlafly on Eagle Forum Live. I have broken it up into 19 segments. The first two are Andy and Phyllis babbling about CP, and I think so is the third. The rest are all broken up by caller. "Joe" is sure to be an instant classic, of course (segment 14). All I have to do now is get the mp3s onto the server so I can flash them in and format the backbone of this thing. ħuman 00:32, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Maybe relocate it to "best of", because I am trying to work on a complete transcript (if you already have it, maybe put it up for a side by side perhaps?)? It may take days to do this since I am not a professional at this though (No, I don't have Voice recognition stuff yet.) [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 00:45, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

K, relax and wait, it will be so much easier to do it section by section. Of course, if you've already transcribed stuff, that makes life easier. You can just paste it in... What do you mean by "relocate it to best of"? ħuman 01:40, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

I thought the time total is less than the whole audio so it is not the entire audio clip. Guess you took those ads out during the process. (The First reading test thingy should be fun, distinguishing whether the child can read or just guessing.) [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 02:39, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

No pants at Conservapedia

Because someone just nuked the article on them - see http://www.conservapedia.com/Pants MikeR 01:51, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Not even an explanation? I'd think that if it was vandalism, they'd have said something about "liberal vandals". Or RobSmith is a parodist. Umlaut 01:55, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

You can see the deleted content at http://209.85.129.132/search?sourceid=navclient-ff&ie=UTF-8&q=cache%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.conservapedia.com%2FPants - nothing obvious I can see that warrants nuking though we do have some rubbish about democrats wearing pantsuits is some kind of feminist superiority message as opposed to nice republican women who wear skirts. MikeR 02:13, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

The part comparing Democrat women wearing pantsuits and Sarah Palin wearing "respectable skirts" is probably parody. It's a tough call though. --PitchBlackMind 02:29, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Pants! ħuman 03:52, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

I can't find cp:Women in Pants did that get nuked as well? Генгис^{You have the right to be offended; and I have the right to offend you.} 07:13, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

It's actually Essay:Women_wearing_pants. Silly twit 07:19, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

I've screenshottennised that google cache version. Upload y/n? (assuming my crappy abacus will take the strain) Totnesmartin 09:15, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

There's been a couple of attempts to add "pants" to the Conservative Words list. Perhaps the deletion is in response to that.--WJThomas 09:45, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Men should wear pants. Women should wear dresses. Some women wear pants. Women in pants bad. Hence, pants bad. Bad, Bad, Bad. (Read aloud in voice of Gareth Keenan for best effect.) Jimaginator 12:54, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

I checked out out the pants essay for giggles and went to the category:Essays. I haven't laughed this hard in awhile. I can't tell if they are pardoy so I can't link to them, but some of them are comedy genius. Check em out when you need a chuckle Teabag 17:41, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Andy, the Dancemix

Here you go. It's not as spectacular as it should be, but I only went through the first mp3. Maybe I'll do the other one sometime soonish.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U07GIWybRr8 If you want the mp3, mail me.

-Lardashe

YOU PROMISED ME AUTO-TUNE, ASSHOLE ^{— Unsigned, by: Neveruse513 / talk / contribs} 18:09, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, somebody needs to do an "Autotune the Andy" version, in Autotune the News style. That would be pure AWESOME. --127․0․0․1 18:23, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Here's an autotuned version, although I'm not sure how they pull off that severe autotuning.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtR1VwCZBN8 -Lardashe

haha, thanks. ^{— Unsigned, by: Neveruse513 / talk / contribs} 18:32, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

You need to feed it a MIDI line. It's the smooooOOOoooooOOOOooke! --127․0․0․1 18:36, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

I want to see Andy Stole the Precious Conservapedia. ENorman 18:38, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Now I'm imagining Chibi-Andy. I hate you. :) --Gulik 21:04, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

I regret that I just spent the last hour and half putting together a horrible horrible conversation between Andy and his mother that I will not share until I can figure out how to trigger pitch correction in garageband to a midi source. Thanks for nothing. User:Nutty Roux/sigtalk 22:43, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Garageband is shit. I'd recommend Logic Pro v8, I've spent the last year using it and it's great. SJ ^Debaser 13:29, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

In fairness Superjosh/Russian Mafia, LP8 is five times the price of Garageband. And LP8 doesn't even come with the ability to print photo calendars for your Gran, an essential tool for any DJ or remixer. DogP^{Marmite Patrol} 14:14, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

I forgot about the calendar maker. Logic Pro's more advanced, but Garageband is easily sufficient for this job. Very well done, I loved the splicing along the lines of "Conservapedia's got pornography, it excites the students." SJ ^Debaser 15:34, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Pitch correction in GB appears to not allow you to "play" a voice as an instrument as with Logic vocal transformer or Auto Tune plugins. So I'll see about buying or borrowing Logic cuz it looks rad, but don't forget that GB is free with a Mac. User:Nutty Roux/sigtalk 15:49, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, but then you have to own a mac. That's a fate worse than death. Next thing you know, it's five AM and you're standing out front of the Apple store with all the other douches, waiting to buy the latest iShite. --JeevesMkII ^{The gentleman's gentleman at the other site} 18:48, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

The segmented mp3s are all up on line here on RW now (Conservapedia:Andy Schlafly on Eagle Forum Live) if people want to play with shorter bits. I also encourage you to link your virtuosity from the appropriate places... ħuman 18:57, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Somebody needs to make U.N. Owen Was Andy. Barikada 00:31, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Ed Poor never fails to amuse

this is so fundamentally stupid that it makes my eyes bleed. Ace McWickedⁱ⁹ 21:41, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Hahahaha. Classic Ed, unleashing a torrent of stupidity. --PitchBlackMind 22:05, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

...I idly wonder what you would need to be an expert about the Bible... --Sid 22:34, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Faith. ^{This message brought to you by: respond}_and honey 22:38, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Faith and a partial lobotomy Rad McCool 01:31, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

A Bible? DogP^{Marmite Patrol} 02:40, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Expertise in Palaeography, Christian studies (Dogmas not found in Bible/NT), Jewish studies (Dogmas not found in Bible/OT), Koine Greek(NT Language), Aramaic(NT Language), Hebrew(OT Language), History of civilization(Old Earth only), Physics/dating methods (which books in the bible are authentic and which aren't, unless you go by the Canon and it's simply a decree), ancient mythology (What did the devil put in to test our faith), recent History (4004 BCE to present, especially after 7 BCE), so there is no expert for the Bible. Ed

That, or Bible+faith+full lobotomy. [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 02:54, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

No, you're all wrong. All you need is a low word to content ratio!™ Junggai 11:16, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Conservative Rappers

Yes, they're as bad as you'd expect. Czolgolz 04:17, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

This has been posted somewhere else already, I think. [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 13:35, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

L & G, try and keep non-CP-related stuff off this page. This page is for current events in Conservapedasylum. Even general stuff about CP should go elsewhere. Генгис^{Our ignorance is God; what we know is science.} 13:45, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

The shorter one looks like one of Andy's students. xD Candlewick 18:29, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

TerryH, just another "Liar and vandal"

According to JPratt anyway, who deletes the articles "Template talk:Nb Atlas", "Azariah III" and "Hoshea (high priest)",using "Vandalism / lies" as his reason. All very well and fine, until you look at the wanted articles and realise these were well linked articles and b) he's been crapping all over TerryH's work at listing everybody in the Bible. I guess the parodist's mask is starting to slip a little, or he really is a semi-literate cunt, who doesn't know what he's doing. --PsyGremlin_Whut? 10:44, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

It may seem unbelievable but all the evidence I have perused, including Twitter tweets and other stuff, has pointed overwhelmingly to the latter conclusion. Andy must be able to enforce action at a distance and mysteriously draws these societal misfits to him. In the old days they would have been tolerated as village idiots but now they think they're intelligent people and deserve to be listened to and respected. Nowadays it may not be politically correct to mock the afflicted but one can't help sniggering at them. (BTW Arthur Figgis=Ed Poor). Генгис^{RationalWiki GOLD member} 11:57, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

You take back that slur against the good name of Arthur Figgis now, or i shall have to ask you to step outside. Actually, I've always thought of them more as Upper Class Twits, (although slack-jawed, rather than chinless), saying thing unintelligibly. Like Andy: "Mummy is a right wing harlot and uses me as a waste paper bin." Terry: "I know Ed Meese and Daddy won the Kentucky Derby." --PsyGremlin_Whut? 12:38, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Did we forget about Hanlon's razor? Never attribute to malice if it can be sufficiently explained by stupidity. Nobody at CP is attempting to do bad things, it just the things that occurs naturally when you put a bunch of stupid people together. [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 13:42, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

No, but we also remember Bush's Collorary (sp?): "Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from malice." --Gulik 18:36, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

House, Obama send condolences

Maybe it's just me, but Andy almost makes it sound like they're doing something dirty. --PsyGremlin_Whut? 14:39, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

You know, when I read "House, Obama send condolences" my first thought was "Why are Hugh Laurie and Obama getting together on something?" Silly brain. --JeevesMkII ^{The gentleman's gentleman at the other site} 18:37, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

To be fair, that went through my mind again. I'm pretty sure there is no fictional character Assfly would hate more than House. ^moral 19:27, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Mainpage right leech

So Ken now has to keep his current events news items at the top of the page. After posting this item about "Obamageddon" he reposts it again one week later. And both are still on the main page. Генгис^{You have the right to be offended; and I have the right to offend you.} 15:44, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

I also liked Ken's shoutout to Trent as he increased his picture size by 1 pixel. Twice. The Emperor _{Kneel before Zod!} 16:09, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

I also saw that. Either Ken's either so ignorant about wiki-formatting that he thinks everyone will see the results of his puffery in exactly the same detail, or he does it deliberately to be seen in the RC list. I fear that the latter is the case. Генгис^{Our ignorance is God; what we know is science.} 16:25, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

I, for one, would be pleased to see Kenny given complete and sole control over CP's front page.--WJThomas 16:32, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Nothing Ken does pleases me. He very obviously needs psychiatric care and I hope he gets it. I fear the man will simply disappear some day and nobody but us will even acknowledge he's gone. User:Nutty Roux/sigtalk 16:48, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Anyone who is still living with his mom (Hi! TerryK!) and in his late forties obviously has relationship issues.

Генгис^{Our ignorance is God; what we know is science.} 17:06, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Wait a minute. Isn't that the latest manifestation of 2012 apocalypse? [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 16:38, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

The Imaginary 'Textbook'

It's quite amazing that they can tell us that CP has apparently been cited by a 'textbook' and yet can't provide that oh so minor piece of information...which one? Jammy 22:30, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Well, it was a sunday-school textbook, so it might well have been something somebody at the church put together--Gather a bunch of stuff off the Internet, put it on a flash drive, take it down to Kinko's for printing and binding. Likely as not somebody who knows Andy, knows what he does, knows he teaches sunday school, knows he'd be reading the textbook. Maybe his wife. If it were a "real" textbook Andy would no doubt have mentioned the title in order to better impress us all; he knows that citing a homemade pamphlet is damning with faint praise ("Hey! My best friend Bob mentioned me on the sheet of paper he ran through the ditto machine!").--WJThomas 22:55, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Here's a thought, too: Andy sez that he was teaching about the Book of Daniel when he ran across something interesting about the French Revolution. What does the former have to do with the latter?--WJThomas 23:02, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

It was an insight, you liberal vandal! ħuman 02:29, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Ken was jabbering about the French Revolution and a search engine starting with G some months ago. Ace McWickedⁱ⁹ 02:31, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

The sniper video

Seems to be walking the line of a threat of violence to me, since I was the one he was stalking all day today, he ends it with that? Hmmm.....tmtoulouse 04:47, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Links? ħuman 04:57, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

On WIGO. tmtoulouse 04:59, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

You mean Ken's newfound love ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ for you? Or something else? ħuman 06:33, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Please don't tell me he was seriously trying to post a picture in his edit summary! Aborted Fetus 09:20, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Trent, given Ken's erratic behavior, marathon editing sessions, and general incoherence, I would assume nothing. I thought Ken crossed the line yesterday and would have feared for my safety. Internet name-calling and shenanigans are one thing. Talking about stalking (while actually doing it) and referring to trained killers is quite another. I would have called the police if I knew that Ken DeMeyer is his real name and he actually lives in Buffalo. User:Nutty Roux/sigtalk 14:29, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Ugh, it's getting incestuous over there. Youtube video is awesome! Conservapedia is awesome! Youtube video saying conservapedia is awesome is awesome! Conservapedia saying my youtube video saying conservapedia is awesome is awesome is awesome! Where will it end? --JeevesMkII ^{The gentleman's gentleman at the other site} 09:57, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

It is amusing that he thinks somehow that his search ranking business is in any way influencing science in Canada or anywhere else. --Kels 17:42, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

hee hee.

lol - I think this counts as a good thing, but just seen that a certain article (beginning with "G" - or maybe not) at CP is linking to my blog as a reference. Won't mention it just yet, because I want to watch Terry and JFuckHead going mad trying to find it. and let me add some more liberal bias to said article in the meantime. --PsyGremlin_Whut? 10:38, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Monsieur Gremlin, you should have posted this on Saloon Bar, then it's less like Terry Koeckritz would find it! SJ ^Debaser 11:09, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Lol, well think of it as a public service thing, Terry Koeckritz will be able to fondle himself again in glee (and on a Sunday too, unless he's taking a break from another 50-hour bender) when he does find it, and frankly I want to see what happens to the poor innocent who put that link in, if he hasn't already thrown in the towel. --PsyGremlin_Whut? 11:20, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

We have a winner (and a new avid reader in the parodist OscarJ (brand new and already calling us vandals? Clearly another who has been sucking hard at Terry's cock teat)). Congrats - collect your complimentary blow job from Terry behind the sheds. (Poor old TagoPagdaluhong though) --PsyGremlin_Whut? 12:49, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

I'll go you one better, and be more specific: In one of the articles that FOIA has spent so much time referencing and linking, a couple of the links (which appear completely innocuous on their face) go to places that are very very very naughty indeed. Very naughty. --WJThomas 12:52, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh. My. God. That is beautiful. FOIA (one trick pony that you are) I think I love you. Now, little Oscar... fetch! --PsyGremlin_Whut? 13:04, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't mean to imply that FOIA is personally responsible for said links--I didn't bother going through the diffs to discover the specific culprit.--WJThomas 13:19, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Doesn't really matter - just feeds the paranoia at the end of the day. It's not like the fact that FOIA has created the grand-daddy of all wiki pages will save him anyway from TightKnickers' tender mercies when his time comes. --PsyGremlin_Whut? 13:59, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

I also know of some non-family friendly links in at least one of PJR's articles. They've been there quite a while now but I aint saying any more. Генгис^{Is the Pope a Catholic?} 15:45, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh hey I see you like the Gitah --GTac 18:23, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Moar TheKunt over-reacts and deletes the entire article. "Over the top pop culture". I LOVE IT. The site is shrinking rapidly. Hey, TightKnickers, Star Trek is definitely pop culture, or won't Uncle Ed blow you anymore if you delete his crap? --PsyGremlin_Whut? 12:46, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

A helping hand for TK

Seeing as you're graduating to deleting pages at a whim, as well as blocking every editor in sight. Judge Dredd pop culture? I would have though he was the most conservative film icon you could get 9he's pro death penalty, anyway), since St Ronnie (or are you just jealous you don't look as nice in all that black leather?). Anyway, if you're going to remove all the pop culture from CP, then here's a list to start with:

• Star Trek (don't forget all of Ed's live-blogged episodes)
• Category: Movies
• Category:Harry Potter Movies
• Category:Science Fiction Movies
• Category:Animated Movies (especially those nasty Ghibli ones Uncle Ed shows to the kids he's grooming teaching.

Lead on, McDuff.

Oh and the next time you try and instigate an off-line e-mail conversation with somebody who could be a minor, I am going to start investigating how to lay a COPPA complaint against Andy and CP. Not you, but Andy as the site owner. --PsyGremlin_Whut? 15:38, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

It's too bad Ed didn't create a page about Pom Poko. I'd like to hear his thoughts about the adorable raccoons use their giant nutsacks to knock people unconscious. --GTac 18:25, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Traditionally, giant testicals have been a comic symbol of impotence. Probably hit a bit too close to home for "Call me Uncle" Ed. --Kels 18:46, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

AddisonDM

Anyone have any idea what is behind AddisonDM's recent willingness to challenge Andy on his intellectual dishonesty? First the williness to challenge the Great Teacher on his ridiculous views about radioactive decay and plate tectonics, and now this: http://conservapedia.com/User_talk:Aschlafly#Sunday_school_book Addison no longer seems quite the clockwork orange. What happens when he bans one of his students? Kaalis 17:50, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

He doesn't admit it ever happened, of course. --Kels 18:45, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Syme had vanished. A morning came, and he was missing from work: a few thoughtless people commented on his absence. On the next day nobody mentioned him. On the third day Winston went into the vestibule of the Records Department to look at the notice-board. One of the notices carried a printed list of the members of the Chess Committee, of whom Syme had been one. It looked almost exactly as it had looked before -- nothing had been crossed out -- but it was one name shorter. It was enough. Syme had ceased to exist: he had never existed. Totnesmartin 20:51, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

He's obviously a reader of RW to ask about the Sunday School book. Asking that question gets you a whuppin' if you're anyone else. DogP^{Marmite Patrol} 22:53, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm, that will lead to an interesting conversation Andy would have with Addison's parents. "Addison just wandered off during the field trip. He refused to accept my authority in telling him to stay on the path, and I guess he just suffered the consequences..."Kaalis 23:47, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Jackson

So TK deleted the Jackson talk page. Anyone know what he was trying to hide? SirChuckB^{DMorris for new Jinx!} 19:50, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

There was an interesting little nugget he posted that I think he did in error which maybe Andy wouldn't have been to happy with. OncomingStorm 20:16, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the update...er, OncomingStorm. Генгис^{You have the right to be offended; and I have the right to offend you.} 20:33, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

So what was the nugget? That when he was younger, TK used to dress up like MJ and moonwalk around his mother's house while singing Pretty Young Thing?--WJThomas 20:56, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

I used to mop a Pizza Hut floor to the strains of Beat It and Electric Avenue... good times (not). ħuman 22:34, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Peas in a Pod, or 69? (for Jeeves)

Megalomaniacal Christian YouTuber (MCY) makes video slamming an atheist YouTuber. Kenny posts his approval under Breaking News. MCY posts video bragging about being mentioned on CP. Kenny posts notice of this as a video saying CP whups WP. MCY posts a video bragging about being mentioned on CP again. Kenny posts notice of this new video as expanded comparison of CP and WP. Ball's in your court, MCY...--WJThomas 20:56, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

If he plays his cards right balls will be in more than just his court ;) --Opcn 22:03, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Just when you thought Ken had had an attack of common sense with his redaction of MainPageLeft, he bounces right back on MainPageRight with his Obamageddon/Oh Canada/Oh YouTuber posts. Great work, Kenny, baby. Генгис^marauding 22:21, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Now all we have to do is STFU and keep Crundy from complaining about it again. I still cry every day when I see no bullfighters or vultures on CP Main Page any more. I guess time heals everything. DogP^{Marmite Patrol} 22:58, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm liking that he couldn't handle seeing the front page without all that bollocks spurted across it for more than a few days. I'm keeping shtum from now on :) Crundy^{Talk nerdy to me} 13:17, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Well his user page has never recovered since I highlighted it as one screencap. Генгис^{RationalWiki GOLD member} 13:30, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

While you were sleeping...

Rob, meet RJJensen. --Sid 23:08, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

I swear, any more unwritten rules and that place will cease to exist. User:Nutty Roux/sigtalk 23:13, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Different article, but still: "Oh yeah? It's on, bitch!" --Sid 20:15, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Cease to exist? We should be so lucky. --Gulik 03:54, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Video games

I don't know what he is talking about. If video games influenced people the result of Pac-Man should be that we have an entire generation of people that standard around in dark rooms, with bright flashing coloured lights, listening to repetitive electronic music, whilst taking magic pills. - π 01:02, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

It's called public schooling. See what I did there? :D Norseman^{Cyser Melomel} 01:15, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Shows how outdated they are. They just picked up on this now. Wait until they learn about games like Assassin's Creed. Anyway, how can two players dying of heart attacks be used against violent video games?--Nate River 01:24, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

All of you missed the tunnel that connects the two sides of the room such that you can go from the left side of the room to the right side of the room by travelling left. It's the desire to find this tunnel that stem a bunch of scientists to look for things such as wormholes.

And then why the age of consent (age of the victim that get people accuse of statutory rape) is lower than the age rated for sexually explicit games, while the opposite happens for legally using guns killing people (The military has a age limit higher than the teen rated games, I think)? [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 01:28, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Phyllie and Scruff played Super Smash Bros. (for the N64) and they turned out fine. >.> Candlewick 01:30, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

AS Jr = Scruff? Генгис^{RationalWiki GOLD member} 09:26, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

What exactly do they mean by violent video games? Are they talking about T rated FPS? Stuff like God of War, DMC and Assassin's Creed I understand (I actually have to show my ID when buying these where I live) but seriously. Parents have to look at the rating systems of games and understand that they are no longer simple distractions like the games they grew up with (my mom cannot understand why I still buy games, especially when I bought my PS3)--Nate River 01:41, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Tough computer game laws, you should try living in Australia. Games are sold in New Zealand with stickers on them that say "banned in Australia" as a marketing devise. - π 01:54, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Heh, it works too. NZ has everything Australia wants but cant have. Like an intelligent populous, awesomely violent video games and better looking woman, like Helen Clark. Ace McWickedⁱ⁹ 02:03, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

What about Julia Gillard? - π 03:09, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Cool, I'd actually buy them with that kind of label. I'm nearly pissing myself reading the SCOTUS. If Andy could pass Harvard law, I actually think that I could. I'm still wondering which violent rating theey are talking about. Violence, cartoon violence, excessive or graphic? All of the above perhaps? Or just the ones with blood and gore? I cannot see them having difficulty with those FPS used by the US to promote the army. Hell, playing Ace Combat almost makes me want to join the air force--Nate River 02:13, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

If you can pass law nearly any where else, you can pass it at Harvard. Most unis teach the same things (the god botherer ones being an exception). Harvard is just harder to get into, once you are there it is much the same course work. The difference between you and Andy is he has connections, although you are probably a bit smarter. - π 03:09, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Help me decypher this Schlafly-quote

Some claim that 2/3rds of videogamers are over 18 years old, but far more people are over that age and a much higher percentage of minors are videogamers

Teabag 03:00, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

I think it means that Andy plays video games in his spare time (he's well above the age of 18), and I'm not sure about the second part. Candlewick

I actually figured it out and it does make sense. Congrats Andy. Teabag 03:05, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

I think I figured it out but it doesn't make sense. More than 2/3 of the general population (of the U.S.? World?) are over 18 years old, but the percentage of minors that play videogames is greater than that of adults, therefore less than 2/3 of those who play videogames are over 18 years old. What about an hypothetical population of 50 minors and 150 adults, where 10 minors (20%) and 25 adults (16.667%) play videogames? Flare^Talk 03:33, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

its all statistics , say 1000 people in the world 300 of them gamers , that means that 200 are over 18 , thats 2/3 of the gamers, sp 200/700 =200/7 % = 28% of adults and 100/300 = 33% so percentage wise under 18 is bigger ... I think ...but that would mean he got a statistic right ;( Hamster 03:48, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

But that's precisely what he was refuting. Flare^Talk 04:03, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

When is Andy teaching that math course again?--Nate River 04:08, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Their new way of hiding blocks (TK LeoS Userpage misfire)

This is like as if the block never happened. Only if you don't bother checking out the name they are renaming to. More ways of them accusing us for the liberal deceit. [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 01:13, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Nah, its nothing that devious, they are trying to get around the fact that every first name last initila is getting used up. tmtoulouse 01:18, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

This is paranoia about the Conservapedia:Unusable names article. They are sure we are trying to use up all the available username-space. I would expect to see more of this. - π 01:29, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

More lulz if you put it that way. And then they block people of "having previous records of vandalism" without the user ever knowing it. [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 01:31, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

That is a good point. We might be able to reuse old handles and see if they remember having blocked them or whether they just took time off. - π 01:35, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Anyone ever come up with a connect-four or tic-tac-toe like game to play with Conservapedia:Unusable names? Perhaps come up with Hollywood Squares type qualities depending on who blocks you. Teabag 03:03, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

I can think of a blockbusters style game for Conservapedia blocking. You start with a set of hexes filled with random letters like regular blockbusters, one player plays top to bottom and another left to right. Each player takes it in turns to select an unoccupied letter from the board and an unblocked user whose name starts with that letter. If the user is blocked within 24 hours, you get to claim that hex. The winner is the person who creates an unbroken line of hexes between their two sides. Players aren't allowed to create socks for the purposes of game play, or select their own socks. --JeevesMkII ^{The gentleman's gentleman at the other site} 11:28, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Do our colonial cousins understand Blockbusters? Should it not be part of the game that one side plays solo and the other as a pair? Silver Sloth 12:14, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

The big assault on Canada revealed!

Try and guess the friend^img that brought Denyse O'Leary's attention to the article! Such a high profile blog outta really drive the traffic! Now I know why I should be scared. tmtoulouse 05:30, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Hey we got as much column space as Ken's "article" did, pity she fucked up the link. Her Alexa rating might be low because her readers might not have the technical skills required to install the tool bar, after all she can't use an anchor link properly and she is the one doing the writing, imagine what the readers are like. - π 05:59, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

It's gotta burn that the tag text is "conservapedia" and not "evolution." Totally non SEO. tmtoulouse 06:09, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Does she help with SEO any way? I thought she would get passed over by the Google bots as a link farm. - π 06:11, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Not to mention the duplicate content, she posts her crap on 20 different sites. But we are just in denial, Ken's arsenal of support has been revealed and I am quacking in my boots. tmtoulouse 06:13, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

You should be now he has eroded the evolutionary paradigm on the internet in Canada [link to stupid picture], a survey will come out showing a loss of support of the Evolutionary position in the public [external link to an internal article subsection] and he will move in for the kill [link to a slightly threatening YouTube video]. :) - π 06:21, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

You are right, when I look at someone like Larry Moran, and compare his accomplishments to the like of Denyse O'Leary I realize the bankruptcy of my position. Oh the existential angst! tmtoulouse 06:24, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

He belong to liberal academia. On this uncontrolled internet [link to almost completely irrelevant YouTube video] the evolutionary paradigm will not survive. - π 06:30, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

(aside) I now have an image of Trent as a boot wearing duck - "Quacking in my boots" indeed!. ^{This message brought to you by: respond}_and honey 06:53, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

See Rob, now that is a malapropism. tmtoulouse 07:01, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

I like the fact she says her "friend" is pestering her to sue for defamation. Ace McWickedⁱ⁹ 07:09, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

That reminds me, I keep forgetting to send Andy a letter demanding he remove the accusations of fraud against me on his web site... ħuman 20:43, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Heh, I didn't make the connection between the friend in those two paragraphs before. Ken, you naughty manchild. --JeevesMkII ^{The gentleman's gentleman at the other site} 08:28, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Nice timing. I just borrowed one of her books (Faith @ Science: Why Science Needs Faith in the Twenty-First Century) a few days ago. Maybe I should start debunking it. Second thought, 2 pages in and it's full of logical fallacies that it's not even wrong. [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 19:55, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

"Unidrected evolution"? Whassat? Генгис^{Our ignorance is God; what we know is science.} 09:43, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Reality. --Kels 13:37, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Attention creationist nut jobs the world over

Gentlemen in the closet at Conservapedia. Your arguments have lost their snap, crackle, and pop, and have descended into a soggy mess! Au Lait! Au Lait!! Au Lait!!!—</incredibly accurate satire>

RationalWiki's article for Denyse O'Leary is flying high on Google Canada with a top 10 result for the unpopular search Denyse O'Leary. It is number 2 on Goggle, Google New Zealand and Google Australia. In addition it is number 3 on Google UK. Crappy bloggers will not survive on the internet. :) - π 11:11, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Ouch. Now we are just as obsessed as Ken in listing occurrences of us appearing in search engines with name starting with G. [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 15:34, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Gentlemen of a rather nutjob site that even the Republican Party doesn't care exists. A search for 'online encyclopedia' in the UK on a popular search engine beginning with G, or maybe it was Y, no might have been B, or was it N, F? Z? C?, anyway, whatever.....a search for 'online encyclopedia at Google has revealed that Conservapedia isn't listed at all, nope, not all, whatsoever. The failure of Conservapedia to gain any recognition as an online encyclopaedia continues. Au lait! Au lait!! Au lait!!!——Faster…Deeper…Harder…but with a little more lube if you please.--Precumming Storm 14:47, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Good lulz, Dwarf. Good lulz. SJ ^Debaser 15:44, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

The culprit can be the quotes and the word "online" as much as the word "encyclopedia". But then again, How many people would do frequent searches for "Offline encyclopedia" on the same/slightly different (G @ nz versus G at de versus G at jp) search engines? [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 19:52, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

The quotes weren't used in the search, the single quote marks used here are just to denote the string what I did type into that there Googley type box thing. As for using the term online encyclopedia, AndyPandy wanted Conservapedia to be a conservative alt to Wikipedia which, of course, is an online encyclopedia, having no physical alt form.--Precumming Storm 20:23, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

O RLY? Totnesmartin 18:50, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Ken wasn't kidding

I suspect those of you who aren't Canadians have heard nothing about this, due to your liberal mainstream media, but the Canadian Internet have been completely overrun by creationism in an operation called Operation Crumbly Dachshund. Remember "the internet is a series of tubes"? From Alaska's standpoint, this is literally true, as the Canadian Internet is a system of hydraulic tubes filled with maple syrup and poutine. We are on the defensive, the situation is grim and grows grimmer by the minute, as it turns out our Science Minister was a creationist plant, a pawn of chess master Ruy Lopez. Our stalwart lumberjacks and mounties are valiantly attempting to repair the holes in the internet trunk (a pipeline running through British Columbia from Alaska to Washington), gouged by bulls manipulated by creationist matadors. Please send help! We've run out of supplies and are now using spam to fill the leaks, and it's only a matter of time until the crusading creationists reach the Central Pumping Nexus, codenamed the "Evolutionary Paradigm." 21:12, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Update: They have cheetahs! God save·········· the HELL is th··········hybrid monsters···········reanimated Hitl·····looks like····rwin····*static* 21:19, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Quickly! Capture Sarah Palin and threaten to release her into the Lower 48 unless Ken stops!! The Emperor _{Kneel before Zod!} 21:19, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

See? You mock me and my hamburger syndrome, but it is I who will have the last laugh against the lies of evolution! Canada has fallen, and nowhere is safe! Ole ole ole! Kendoll 21:31, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Sir! We're receiving an incoming message from Canada-

Gentlemen! I will mature your precious sceptre, enabling me to destroy RationalWiki on the internet. You should all be ruffling over Operation potato masher, which will likely give Conservapedia a top result on a certain search engine starting with G. Gentleman Anonymous User, I must say that your comments in regards to the death of Darwinism on the internet are rather disturbing. In regards to the subject of liberalism and addiction, you mislead children by suggesting that a major online Christian conservative newspaper is very interested in regards to Conservapedia's Atheism article. In fact, by this December, it is likely Homosexuality will have lost all vestiges of credibility. :) :) :) Rest assured, Operation Four-slice Toasters is gathering steam!!! I'm off to skewer the sacred cows of evolutionism. Sincerely, Conservative Oh god! The Emperor Kneel before Zod! 21:39, 29 June 2009 (UTC) You called?--Precumming Storm 23:46, 29 June 2009 (UTC) This is a dark day indeed. Gods save the Queen. I, on the other hand, will be saving the Beer and Wenches.--Tygrehart He is still plagiarizing? I saw TK created a "new" article and just for old times sake googled the opening line, sure enough it is plagiarized from a copyrighted source. tmtoulouse 22:42, 29 June 2009 (UTC) Well you can't expect a worn out old dog to learn new tricks. He does actually reference that article but in a deceitful manner and not for that copied line which of course should have quotes. And obviously he has no idea how to paraphrase - no, strike that, he's just a lazy git trying to appear productive but without an original thought in his sick sad old mind and reduced to steal what scraps he can find. Генгисunbelieving 22:53, 29 June 2009 (UTC) Sometimes it's a shame Wikipedia doesn't allow original research. I'd love to throw together a little subheading with documentation of such plagiarism. 71.193.206.116 23:48, 29 June 2009 (UTC) As far as cut&pastes from WP go, I don't remember Wikipedia being particularly bothered about "plagiarism" of its pages, although simple courtesy, intellectual honesty, and perhaps even CP's own Second Commandment call for acknowledgement of sources. There is, however, this to throw documentation into. Sprocket J Cogswell 01:45, 30 June 2009 (UTC) I was actually referring to the possibility of using Wikipedia to show the exact nature of plagarism on Conservapedia, something prevented by rules against original research (and blatant pettiness, I suppose). Pro-Conservapedia people (like a certain Mr. Poor) might actually notice it there, whereas RW is mostly read by those who wish to troll it (such as TK). 71.193.206.116 03:06, 30 June 2009 (UTC) Too soon the "save page," too late the understanding on my part. Mea culpa, just this once, of course. I wouldn't call it pettiness, if your aims are pure, which I'm sure they are. Even if not, it would contain a minor portion of justifiable pettiness for the greater good. Too bad the venue doesn't work that way. You will find, if you inquire further, that Wikipedia also has the policy that it is not a soapbox. Sprocket J Cogswell 03:50, 30 June 2009 (UTC) On the other hand, cites and verifiability are a very good thing on Wikipedia. The assertion there that "RationalWiki... offers criticism" could use a footnote after "criticism" pointing at that CP:Blatant plagiarism page as an example of verifiable issues worth criticizing at CP. Sprocket J Cogswell 04:00, 30 June 2009 (UTC) TK learned from the best. --Gulik 04:17, 30 June 2009 (UTC) Specific incidents of plagiarism from Wikipedia should be noted at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Mirrors_and_forks/Abc#Conservapedia . - Cuckoo 13:15, 30 June 2009 (UTC) Liberals are the conspiracy theories! Anyone remember how Andy likes to go on about how liberals are always believing in conspiracy theories? Well, early Sunday morning I was woken by a knock-knock at my front door. I dragged myself up from my hangover and mumbled what bad and stupid idea I thought it was to think about getting up. But I answered the door and found my half brother on the doorstep. This was unusual because I thought he was in Brazil. So I let him in and we had a few pre-lunch beers. During our conversation he started spouting anti-Obama conspiracy theories. I listened politely. After he left I watched a movie at his suggestion. It was called The Obama Deception and within minutes I could see where it was going. Typical New World Order/Illuminati brain fodder. The movie went on about a shadowy junta called The Bildeberg Group. After doing a little research I discovered this - "According to the investigative journalist Chip Berlet, the origins of Bilderberger conspiracy theories can be traced to activist Phyllis Schlafly. Schlafly suggested a conspiracy theory in which the Republican Party was secretly controlled by elitist intellectuals dominated by members of the Bilderberger group, whose policies would pave the way for global communist conquest." Heh, liberal conspiracy theories indeed. Ace McWickedi9 00:37, 30 June 2009 (UTC) Your half-brother sounds like a crazy sort of person; who else can find time for American conspiracy theories while globetrotting from Brazil to New Zealand? ListenerXTalkerX 00:43, 30 June 2009 (UTC) Well, I assumed he still in Brazil but I hadn't heard from him in a few months so he could have been anywhere. I was most surprised to find him on my doorstep as he doesn't live in my city. Anyway, as soon as I realized its was NWO stuff I knew not to give it creedence. Then when I found Mama Schlafly's name attached I knew what to file it under. Bullshit. Ace McWickedi9 00:48, 30 June 2009 (UTC) Well the way I read it, The Bilderberger posse are liberals engaged in deceit and they a deceiving the god honest Republicans. Thank heavens she was there to point it out. Rad McCool 01:14, 30 June 2009 (UTC) When is mommy going to the retirement center Andy? I think the old age is catching up with her... oh wait, this is nothing new.--Nate River 01:53, 30 June 2009 (UTC) She is rich; she can afford a live-in nurse. ListenerXTalkerX 02:01, 30 June 2009 (UTC) She first came up with this conspiracy theory in 1964 in her book A Choice, Not an Echo. Ace McWickedi9 02:06, 30 June 2009 (UTC) No wonder Andy's Acolytes said that Andy's mom is the most influential person between 1945 and 1980. [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 04:06, 30 June 2009 (UTC) Everyone should buy Turbo Reader the nurse needs a bonus for having to listen to Phyllis Screechy. ГенгисRationalWiki GOLD member 05:32, 30 June 2009 (UTC) Well, at least Bilderberger group conspiracy theorists have one up on many other NWO-fearing nutcases, in that the group they fear actually exists. I wonder if Mommy Dearest believes they're all reptiloids like David Icke does? --JeevesMkII The gentleman's gentleman at the other site 06:23, 30 June 2009 (UTC) Schade Aw, Ketklik's been blocked again (this time as JonathanG). Shame, I like him.-- Kriss AkabusiAAAWOOOGAAAR!!1 08:11, 30 June 2009 (UTC) What a shame he doesn't still have access to Andy's study. Hey Phy, how about for old time's sake? Wink, wink. ГенгисYou have the right to be offended; and I have the right to offend you. 08:26, 30 June 2009 (UTC) I literally cried when I saw this. Mainly because it happened while I was in class and I didn't have a chance to attempt to contact TK explaining myself. There should be a new rule that if a user asks a legitimate question to a sysop, that he must wait a full 24 hours before blocking the user.Candlewick 09:31, 30 June 2009 (UTC) Wait, let me get this straight: You want to contact TK? In private? To explain yourself? To challenge a permaban? And CP should have a rule limiting sysop power? ...typical. I'm quasi-away for a few days, and people already start going insane. --Sid 09:40, 30 June 2009 (UTC) Of course I want to explain myself. Why else would I be posting in my Sandbox here? That comment on TK's page was one of the last edits I made while I was getting ready for class. My laptop was shut down after whatever my last edit was and I hadn't turned my lappy back on until midnight (EST). Candlewick 09:46, 30 June 2009 (UTC) You can't explain yourself to a bully, they just kick more sand back in your face. ГенгисIs the Pope a Catholic? 09:54, 30 June 2009 (UTC) Woah! Did you say bully? Is TK actually considered bully? Candlewick 10:02, 30 June 2009 (UTC) You either have a dry sense of humour or else you haven't been paying attention. Генгисpillaging 10:52, 30 June 2009 (UTC) Well, if he is a bully to a good amount of editors on Cp, then he is breaking the Cp commandments of harrassment and can be punished up to 2 years of jail for such. You misspelt "impotent". CrundyTalk nerdy to me 10:12, 30 June 2009 (UTC) He at least reads it.. >.> Candlewick 10:14, 30 June 2009 (UTC) Well you can still email him outside the CP system, but fat lot of good that's going to do you. If you're really that keen to carry on editing at CP then tackle Andy next time you see him in the liquor grocery store. ГенгисRationalWiki GOLD member 10:52, 30 June 2009 (UTC) Andy doesn't drink. Candlewick 10:57, 30 June 2009 (UTC) That there probably explains most of the Assfly's manifold problems. --JeevesMkII The gentleman's gentleman at the other site 11:04, 30 June 2009 (UTC) Hah! Another of TK's lies! ГенгисYou have the right to be offended; and I have the right to offend you. 13:03, 30 June 2009 (UTC) Bring back short blocks IPs aside, you now have to go a long way back through the block log to find a block of less than five years. The only exceptions, weirdly, are 'recreate your account with a better name' blocks from JPatt, which tend to be only 3 months for some reason. They should bring back the shorter blocks.-- Kriss AkabusiAAAWOOOGAAAR!!1 13:04, 30 June 2009 (UTC) Like that's going to happen with TK around? Actually, the last person he gave a short block to (or was it Ed?) was BRichten, but then TK sneakily blocked his IP for all eternity, in a typically TK deceitful manner. I miss "Violated 90/10 rule against talk, talk, talk", "Entering into disputes not involving editor (MYOB)", "Negative personal comments", and "User removed from the site after engaging in harassment of site's members"... all of which should imply that TightKnickers should have been booted off ages ago, if Andy and his goons weren't hypocritical idiots, of course, or if TK wasn't blackmailing Andy to allow him back on the site (just a thought). --PsyGremlinWhut? 13:18, 30 June 2009 (UTC) 23:52, 27 June 2009 AddisonDM (Talk | contribs) blocked Kawboy55 (Talk | contribs) with an expiry time of 6 months (account creation disabled) ‎ (Inserting nonsense or gibberish into pages or edit comments) This is the most recent non-5+ year user block on record. Aboriginal Noise with 4 M's and a silent Q 13:29, 30 June 2009 (UTC) Actually that's only three days ago. Well done Addison.-- Kriss AkabusiAAAWOOOGAAAR!!1 13:53, 30 June 2009 (UTC) Oops! Think he might have got me: Carphone Warehouse got the chop on the 28th. This message brought to you by: respondand honey 14:09, 30 June 2009 (UTC) I never really understood the five year block. Why don't they just go for infinite? You know they want to. Are they pussies? — Unsigned, by: Neveruse513 / talk / contribs 16:29, 30 June 2009 (UTC) They figure the user might clean up their act and realize their wrong doing after 5 years. So they give a tiny window of opportunity. I want a 5 year block, so I can come back at some point. Instead of having to wait until I can afford a new laptop. Candlewick 17:01, 30 June 2009 (UTC) Not really worth a WIGO But "word poverty | | popularized by President George W. Bush" - I wondered if Dubya was the example of "word poverty". This message brought to you by: respondand marmalade 15:27, 30 June 2009 (UTC) I believe it should be grammatic/linguistic poverty, but well, we are talking about dyslexic people spelling "dyslexia", which probably ends up as "daily sex". [[User:K61824|]][[User_talk:K61824|]] 15:37, 30 June 2009 (UTC) Liberals controlling elections So, according to Andy and Slate, when large corporations donate lots of money to candidates, conservatives win, and when they don't, liberals win. I'm not sure which of these is more democratic. Hmmm.... Z3rotalk 17:59, 30 June 2009 (UTC) An election is generally recognized as democratic if no one is induced to vote against their conscience and people's votes are recorded in an accurate manner. Beyond that, any claims of elections being undemocratic are usually just whining because one's own side did not win. ListenerXTalkerX 18:09, 30 June 2009 (UTC) Two points (a) I was using the word democratic in the more traditional sense of "representing the will of the people" and (b) I think extra money swaying votes would violate your first point. Z3rotalk 19:01, 30 June 2009 (UTC) Bribing or compelling people to vote a certain way violates the first point, but putting forth expensive propaganda does not. ListenerXTalkerX 19:07, 30 June 2009 (UTC) Hrm. When they outcome of an election hinges on who has more money, I don't think you can really call that democracy. The principle of one person, one vote wouldn't seem to apply there. In fact you can essentially "buy" votes by buying advertising, so it's more like a shareholder's vote than a democratic vote. Not that that's necessarily a bad thing. I don't think I'd mind living in a country where one could buy voting shares. --JeevesMkII The gentleman's gentleman at the other site 20:31, 30 June 2009 (UTC) RobS Bushism Redux Wow, being made a fool the last time wasn't enough for ya, eh Rob? The quote you claim isn't even in the article you cite, and you are mangling the paraphrase in the article. As it originally appeared in the article it all makes perfect sense. Maybe you should try Phylis Schlafly's phonics course? tmtoulouse 20:17, 30 June 2009 (UTC) Yah, this makes sense: 7 percent of all the energy consumed in America is used to light our homes (directly quoting the president. "substantial savings between 2012 and 2042, saving consumers up to $4 billion annually, conserving enough energy to power every U.S. home for 10 months..." (and we are not even getting into the 166 million cars or 14 power plant premises) Is this, (a) restoring science to its rightful position, or (b) restoring logic to its rightful position? RobS 20:33, 30 June 2009 (UTC)